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echo: adhd
to: KALERA ASHLEY
from: JANE KELLEY
date: 1998-03-26 06:52:00
subject: Ritalin and NIMH

 KA> JK> Found article and I quote:  "Attention lapses caused by petit mal
 KA> seizures
 KA> JK> be confused with ADHD".  Exactly what I have been complaining about.
 KA> You've been copmplaining about NIMH's caution not to confuse ADHD
 KA> with a  completely different condition?
No, I have been complaining about the tendency of folks such as yourself to 
act like profane experts on all kinds of "mental" conditions without the 
knowledge of the physical causes of behavior.  In short, the courses in 
anatomy and physiology, pharmacology, chemistry, and a hord of other subjects 
that medical and nursing folks study.
And that drug and alcohol counelors will also study....the same exact ones 
that are given to student nurses these days.
And that those who do have a medical background would not be guilty of trying 
to persuade a parent of a child with a seizure disorder that any drug, other 
than that for the seizure condition itself, would fix deviant behavior.
In fact, the NIMH article stated that some behavior problems were to be 
expected with children who had petit mal seizures.
 KA> Mark Probert has never denied that restricted diet helps people
 KA> with food  allergies. He, and other people such as myself, deny that
 KA> restricted diet  helps people with ADHD.
He has denied that anyone diagnosed with ADHD could be helped with a remedial 
diet.  I insist that many are so diagnosed who actually do not have this 
problem.
And who should be seen by someone with a medical background to find out what 
might be going on.
 KA> JK> Also found a statement that ADHD is linked to both the use of 
lcohol
 KA> and o
 KA> JK> cocaine during pregnancy.  As this is usually by addicts, as a
 KA> chemical
 KA> JK> dependency counselor, I object vigorously to the prescription of any
 KA> drug f
 KA> JK> any human by anyone unless addiction in the immediate family is
 KA> factored in
 KA> JK> the history!  It is all too evident to me that this is not being 
done.
 KA> I agree that many doctors are negligent in researching personal
 KA> and family  background when prescribing medications. However,
 KA> there have been no known incidents of addiction resulting from
 KA> Ritalin use in the treatment of ADHD.
KNOWN BY WHOM?  I know one chemical dependency counselor who would disagree 
with your statement.  Also so does the doctor whose article I downloaded, 
Peter Briggs, I think.  I am frankly too lazy at this time of the morning to 
go dig it out of file.  I downloaded some 20 pages when I entered "Ritalin" 
in a search engine, and his was the largest.
Just because you are unaware of something, and Mark Probert doesn't know it 
either, doesn't mean it isn't.
I remember when Valium and Librium were the wonder drugs of choice.  Today it 
is Ritalin and Prozac.  And our pharmaceutical industry is busy trying to 
develop new ways to impact the receptor sites in the brain instead of 
teaching mothers how to feed themselves properly during pregnancy and their 
children after they are born.
ARE YOU AWARE THAT IT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE TO REVERSE SOME MINOR BIRTH DEFECTS 
BY REMEDIAL DIET IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS OF A CHILD"S LIFE?
Have you ever contacted the Down Syndrome folks to find out what they are 
doing with remedial diets?
 KA> Yes. This is obvious and Mark and myself have repeated the above
 KA> numerous  times. YOU were the one who was claiming that teachers
 KA> and other school staff could diagnose and treat ADHD. They cannot
 KA> and have never been able to do so.
They do so all the time without permission or a state license.  So why cannot 
they be brought to trial for practicing medicine without a license? I saw on 
TV where someone who was much more qualified, who had gone all the way 
through the steps necessary to become a doctor and who had worked in an ER 
was finally caught.
He will get a 10 year sentence.  What is the proper sentence for some idiot 
school teacher and school counselor who cannot accept several qualified 
statements that a child has petit mal epilepsy and still want to perform some 
insane testing on same child?  Qualified reports,that is, from not only the 
pediatrician but pediatric neurologist and other experts.
 KA> JK> And I found this:  "Another debate is whether Ritalin and other
 KA> stimulant
 KA> JK> drugs are prescribed unnecessarily for too many children.....critics
 KA> argue
 KA> JK> that many children who do not have a true attention disorder are
 KA> medicated
 KA> JK> a way to control their disruptive behaviors."
 KA> I suggest that you do, indeed, have a problem with reading
 KA> comprehension. The  article which you quote above is clearly stating
 KA> that the use opf stimulants has critics... which include yourself.
That implies many more people besides me who are involved in being critical 
since I have never contacted those who wrote it.  It also implies a matter of 
concern since the writer brought it up.
So who are these other critics and why are they concerned?  Have they spotted 
the same things I have, do they wonder if this is another genetic mutation of 
alcoholism and drug abuse that should not be treated with more drugs?  What 
percentage of the kids who are diagnosed ADD or ADHD come from parents who 
have abused drugs?  Do you know and give a damn that these children may be 
irreparably harmed by the experimentation of idiots?
To anyone who is reading this who knows that they have a history of drug 
abuse, or that there is alcoholism or drug abuse in the immediate ancestry, 
grandparents, parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, siblings, of any child who is 
hyperactive, I urge you to find someone qualified to do a workup on that same 
child which will include investigation of all possible physical causes of the 
behavior BEFORE THAT CHILD IS PLACED ON ANY DRUG!!!!
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