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echo: atari_st
to: Don Crano
from: Terry Russell of 1:2215/110
date: 1996-01-14 22:24:00
subject: Re: Thomas Regurgitator

 > Sure sides come in to it.. Just look at you and me.. You will always go
 > with the negitive side, just like the IGO thing.. Even thought there was
 > plenty to counter it, that was the side you picked righ from the start..

Good example, except it appears your opinion of "negative" is almost ANY
information that does not go along with what ever Atari's release of
information is. Is this correct?

Now in the case of the IGO thing quite a few things are still
being debated. Atari has tried to counter most of what they called
"infactual" information with what they called factual. I am sure much of the
information on BOTH sides is still not completely 100% correct at this point.

 > I went the route to see what I could find on it and what Atari had to say
 >  about it..  That is the sides of the fence I am refering to..
 >
Not exactly, I as remember you told me that you talked PERSONALLY to someone
inside Atari. You also stated you checked Genie and CIS for any official
announcements by Atari. I would not call that going the "route" but instead
would say that it was tending to questioning the accused to see if they would
give you their "correct" version. Now I am not willing to say WHO has given
the correct or NEARLY correct version of information only that there appears
to be more than one version... I also tend to believe that anyone looking for
information OTHER than Atari's OFFICIAL statements would also be considered
"going the route" if you can consider a search for their version of it as
"going the route" would'nt you?

 > No for the most part I will not agree..

Somehow I did not think you would ;')

 >  When the infomation that is puplic and also relivent to the government I
 > think the info would be factual.. If not a Corp could very easily get in
 > trouble with a government offices called the IRS, State and Local tax
 > departments, ect...

When the information is public, it IS NOT always 100% accurate. It may be
based
on fact but it can be manipulated to show many things especially for tax
purposes.

 > I said Atari has made mistakes, I think a lot of people would agree with
 > that.. But your statement was refered to Most in relation to fairy
 > tales, ect...
 >
Yes I believe that is exactly what I said, I also include your revelation of
mistakes TOO if you insist ;')

 > Your example is very good here, in fact good for both of our examples...
 > First as you say, they said there was going to be a advertising blitz
 > just before Xmas.. This is very true, and as you say they changed their
 > minds..

Thankyou for admitting this but most of us watching were already well aware
of it.

 > There reasons have already been explained,,

Now see, I must have missed this, I did not see any official release by Atari
stateting that they changed their minds. I assumed that they did since it did
not happen but I did NOT see them ADMIT it....


 > 1  The release from Atari never said HUGE, they just stated to watch for
 > an advertising blitz just before XMAS...
 >
Not sure where or when the HUGE was added, however heres the definition of
BLITZ : Fast intensive campaign

There was NO intensive campaign.


 > 2  It was as far as I know only released once, not many times as you
 > say..

It was quoted many times and I am sure it also was repeated from more than
one source at Atari. Thus MANY is a fair characterization in this case...


 > Also for you info the reason it did not happen was also released only once
 > and also befor Xmas...
 >
Would you care to digress here for just a second and provide me with a quote
of this and it's source please? As I said I must have missed it...

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