From: "Gary Britt" 

I've used MSN Messenger 7, 7.5 being able to do direct machine to machine
sounds good.  Does it require XP and turning on XP's control of open ports
on the router via uPnP to work machine to machine audio/video?  Or can it
be manually configured as to ports to use and then manually set the
router's port forwarding to the specific machines in question?  I don't run
XP, my wife has it though, but it won't be on my end.  I refuse to turn on
XP's uPnP control of open ports on the router also.

Gary

"Rich"  wrote in message news:433c1ce2$1{at}w3.nls.net...
   NetMeeting is almost obsolete.  Current applications do much better in
everything from NAT traversal to audio and video quality.  My suggestion
for an adhoc conversation is to use MSN Messenger 7.5.  Audio and video are
direct machine to machine.  If you have a major meeting I would suggest
considering something meatier like LiveMeeting.

Rich

  "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
news:433bf0db{at}w3.nls.net...
  Recently Scott in our NY office and I tried a Net Meeting session between
  our two laptops, using a LinkSys USB2 camera.  We are connected via a
  private T-1 between the offices, with a Cisco 1720 router on each end, so
we
  can use private IP addresses, and connect direct machine to machine.  Our
  results were no better than using a pubic reflection server.  Audio was
  poor, video was jerky, audio was at many times out of sync.  This is with
  the built-in Net Meeting provided in XP-Pro.  There is no way I'd try or
  even suggest using that for a major meeting in a conference room.

  We configured both sides to be on a local corporate lan, but the speeds
  showing on the network usage were tiny.  There was no way we could figure
  out to make it anything other than the same as an ICQ Video Chat setup.

  --

  Glenn M.
  "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
  news:433b1f19$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  > Well I think you understand how well it works.  Not at all.  It comes
from
  > a
  > design that was based upon wide open, no NAT, direct modem connections,
  > and
  > it was never fixed because MS wanted everyone to use MSN Chat instead.
  > You
  > can get some things to work like remote desktop viewing and if you're
  > lucky
  > video and audio from one place to the other, but not video and audio in
  > the
  > other direction simultaneously.  You can get text chat to work and maybe
  > some of the whiteboard stuff and file sending.  Its simultaneous
  > video/audio
  > from two or more sources that won't work ever unless you are wide open
to
  > the net on both ends.
  >
  > Gary
  >
  > "Richard B."  wrote in message
  > news:lm2mj1tui247e3musjks1f5li6bd4jvqs7{at}4ax.com...
  >> On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 17:10:11 -0400, "Gary Britt"
  >>  wrote:
  >>
  >> >Netmeeting is near impossible to make work properly through routers at
  > each
  >> >end, unless you turn on uPnP in the router and let XP at both ends
  > control
  >> >what ports are open
  >>
  >> Most everything goes through a router at some point, how does it work
  >> at all? 
  >>
  >> Sounds like my firewall would block it several time over.
  >>
  >> - Richard
  >
  >

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