KA> Please cite some of that "misinformation", and the subsequent
 KA> information  debunking it.
In the article I downloaded from NIMH, it cites several forms of therapy that 
they class as useless.  We have been using them for years in the treatment of 
chemically addicted individuals and their family members.  Nutritional 
therapy has been known, for instance, to more than double the chances of 
recovery in addiction with genetic alcoholics.
For more information on that, I refer you to two recognized experts, Dr. 
James Milam of the Milam Recovery Program in Seattle at 12845 Ambaum Blvd. 
S.W., 98146 who has been called the father of modern treatment for alcoholism 
by those in both Washington and Alaska who understand what he says, and also 
Dr. Charles Bates of the Thurston/Mason Community Mental Health Center, 112 
East State Street, Olympia WA 98501.
They have both written books, especially Dr. Milam, debunking long held 
theories in mental health.
 KA> The second place you're thinking of is probably NIMH.
Nope.  That is where the article came from that Mark thinks so highly about. 
I have found one reference at the end of that I trust and will get back to 
you after I call it today.
 KA> You can't seem to say anything for certainty, especially since you
 KA> can't seem  to cite any reputable studies.
Lady, I have tons of reputable studies around here which date back several 
years.  The problem is that some of the lousier mental health workers 
wouldn't recognize them as such if they were made to ingest them or otherwise 
be in close contact with them.
Their training precludes any acknowledgement of anything said by anyone 
outside of their own tight little circle.  Became aware of this as a student 
nurse at St. Elizabeths Hospital in Washington D.C. when a brilliant 
psychiatrist was debunking the current theories of the day.  He taught me to 
question everything I have heard since.
 KA> Clearly not very frequently if you can't remember NIMH.
Oh I can remember it, just don't accept everything it says as gospel when I 
know that it is wrong most of the time when it doesn't take into 
consideration variences in humans.
For instance, in that same article, in the diagnostic workup described, there 
is NO HISTORY Of ADDICTION MENTIONED at all, yet a causitive agent is.  Both 
alcohol and cocaine are clearly defined as possible causes in prenatal life.
SO TELL ME WHY ISN"T THIS KIND OF HISTORY OBTAINED?
And, that sort of history does not belong in school files, ever.  The Federal 
laws of confidentiality on drug and alcohol records would preclude that.
So, since none of these children are routinely seen by anyone who is 
qualified to do the kind of family assessment that I have been taught to do, 
that others like me are taught to do, I say that the results of all of the 
testing, all of the studies are flawed from the start.
And don't tell me that psychiatrists and psychologists are qualified in 
chemical dependency.  I've sat in too many classes with those who are going 
for the same kind of education I've had to know better.  Unless they have 
taken the same courses and have obtained the same credentials, they are not.
 KA> This is true. Which is why these institutions report the findings
 KA> from  research, not vague extrapolations gleaned from anecdotal
 KA> evidence posted on  web sites by multi-level-marketers.
THAT RESEARCH IS FLAWED FROM THE START IF IT DOESN'T INCLUDE INFORMATION ON 
CHEMICAL DEPENDENCY.
 KA> JK>  MP> Do you even know what NIH is? Do you have the slightest idea 
ow
 KA> JK>  MP> someone  is appointed to the staff?
 KA> JK> The entire system of "mental health" is a pyramid of insanity it
 KA> itself at
 KA> JK> times.  And appointment by one idiot for another idiot doesn't mean
 KA> sicum i
 KA> JK> both idiots are coming from a premise that doesn't hold water.
 KA> In a word, no, she doesn't know.
Oh but I do know.  And have known for some time.  Ever hear of St. Elizabeths 
Hospital?  It is a federal institution in Washington, D.C. where psychodrama, 
among other things, was developed years ago.
I was aware of the differences in the good and the bad psychiatrists and 
mental health workers when I was there and have been aware of them ever 
nce.
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