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echo: nthelp
to: Douglas Smith
from: Gary Britt
date: 2007-03-20 12:17:40
subject: Re: Outlook

From: Gary Britt 

I looked at time and chaos screen shots a few years ago.  It seemed like a
good program, but I didn't look as good or better than Sidekick For Windows
(at least for me anyway).  What do you like about it over Sidekick?  How
long did you use Sidekick?  Which version?

Gary

Douglas Smith wrote:
> I liked Sidekick also.  But look at Time & Chaos as a non-Outlook
> replacement.  www.chaossoftware.com.
>
>  - Doug.
>
>
> In article , GaryNOSPAMBritt{at}generalcogster.com
> says...
>> True Sidekick 98 is not the latest available software, but for me it has
>> better features and a better looking interface than Outlook 2000 (which I
>> also have), I've been using Sidekick since 1994 and before that I used
>> sidekick for dos from 1987 to 1993.  It does support some kind of group
>> scheduling, but I never used that either.  I think its group scheduling is
>> based upon everyone using Sidekick and having internet access.
>>
>> If I'm mobile and traveling across time zones, just as I said earlier this
>> is what I do:  If I'm in Atlanta and schedule a meeting for the next day or
>> two weeks from today in San Francisco.  I schedule the meeting based on
>> local California Time (the actual time of the meeting in that actual
>> location using that locations actual time).  I write down in my calendar,
>> "meet with so and so at his office in San Francisco"
next to the appropriate
>> line for the local time in California the meeting will take place.  A 9:00
>> AM meeting is always 9:00 AM.  When I look at that appointment I know it
>> means 9:00 AM California time not 9:00 AM Eastern.  When I'm in California
>> and I'm at my hotel looking to see what time I need to get a wake up call, I
>> look at my calendar and it says I have a meeting at 9:00 AM at so and so's
>> office.  I know that means the same 9:00 AM as everyone else in California
>> is on.  Also, when I travel, I immediately change my personal wrist watch to
>> whatever local time is.  That way I can use it and plan with it just like
>> anyone else around me uses theirs.
>>
>> I couldn't imagine doing either my Calendar or wrist watch any other way.  I
>> can understand that there might be some group situations where somehow this
>> isn't optimal, but I don't ever encounter them.  When I worked for a company
>> that liked to send out little outlook notices requesting an appointment with
>> me.  I would hit confirm or send a reply if there was a conflict, but then I
>> would enter the appointment in my Sidekick 98 calendar as I never looked at
>> or made any other entries to my outlook calendar.  It didn't take long for
>> other senior execs to catch on that "my" outlook
calendar didn't reflect my
>> true calendar and only reflected by accident appointments that somebody sent
>> me an outlook request appointment message thingy.
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> Rich wrote:
>>>    No.  I'm not assuming everyone is on Outlook.  If you look at the
>>> iCal standard for exchanging appts you will see that it mandates that
>>> some timedate info that is interchanged must be in UTC, others must have
>>> a delta from UTC, and some special case for appts in local time no
>>> matter where people are.  This strictness with time and time zones is
>>> for the same reasons I described.
>>>
>>>    I wouldn't be surprised if sidekick 98 had no concept of anything but
>>> local time.  Not very good for people that are mobile across timezones
>>> but it could be OK for simple use.
>>>
>

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