DT> I saw many things, when I was a student in college, that I found 
DT> disturbing.  Many of the "discipline problems" you mention were, in 
DT> my 
DT> experience, dealing with college freshmen.  Yet I saw many "freshmen" 
DT> taking course work seriously.  Still these "FEW" college freshmen did 
DT> present a discipline challenge to the professors.  But the numbers 
DT> were 
DT> small and no where near the picture you paint.
    The problem with intoxicated-in-class college students varies greatly 
from college to college, but one thing that's true nationwide is that 
_serious_ campus crime heavily involves intoxicated students (ask a 
campus-police administrator).  The classroom side of the problem can and does 
sometimes get to the point that the prof will have difficulty teaching, as 
I've seen happen in several courses.  In one a student started a shouting 
match in class with a prof. 
    Freshmen in college aren't too different from HS seniors, other than for 
living away from home and having the ability to drink as much as they please 
and cut class as much as they please while not being subject to either 
parental discipline or typical HS rules (like attendance).  Is it any 
surprise to you that they are at least as˙undisciplined as they were for 
their HS teachers?
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