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to: GLENN VERMETTE
from: ALAN RACKMILL
date: 1998-04-13 09:38:00
subject: Legality of Commandeering cars

Glenn Vermette wrote in a message to Barbara McNay:
 GV> *** Quoting Barbara McNay to Glenn Vermette ***
BM>  > Sigh..........!!!!!!!!
BM>
BM> Not a very enlightening answer.  Is any citizen entitled to say,
BM> "Not in MY car, you don't"?  If not, what would it take, and how
BM> long, to convince a cop that ready transportation really was not
BM> available from me?  My car does not have special equipment or
BM> identifying features.  Don't sigh again, please.  Thinking does
BM> not enable us to know laws, police procedures or any other
BM> specialized, unfamiliar or unexperienced thing.
 GV> You're right...however I ask none of this...just that you
 GV> think and use common sence...that is all...no more...no
 GV> less.  Bottom line is if your the only available car at the
 GV> time, and the cop really needs it, then he's not going to
 GV> wait for you to get your walker out, he's not going to wait
 GV> to listen to your story.  There will be no debate, no
 GV> argument, you'll just be out, and that's it.  You'll have
 GV> the rest of your life to complain, write letters, sue, stomp
 GV> your feet, cry, get mad or whatever else you like......and
 GV> in the end if you being out on your ass on the ground for a
 GV> while resulted in someone who just murdered a wife or child
 GV> or whatever being caught and arrested, then I'd hope you'd
 GV> also have the common sence to realize that although it may
 GV> not have been a very comfortable experience for you, that it
 GV> was necessary, and understand why it was necessary....as I'm
 GV> sure the family of the murdered child would understand and
 GV> be appreciative.....unfortunatley though, few people, and
 GV> obviously yourself included, even with the luxury of time to
 GV> think about it, still can't comprehend what possible reason
 GV> the cop would need to take your car without having a half
 GV> hour debate about it with you first....and that is the
 GV> reason why you get the:  Sigh......!!!!!
Glenn, we can comprehend why it might be necessary for a cop to want to take 
our vehicle in order to chase a felon.
But you don't seem to comprehend our problems here.
Barbara sounds like she has the same type of problem getting out of a car 
that I do:  It can take an inordinately long time.
I am severely limited im range of motion and mobility.
Normally it takes me approximately 30 seconds to get out of my car.
That is on a good day, when everything is working in good order.
There are times, though, when it can take me two minutes to unbuckle and 
physically get out of the car.
It thecop who wants to comandeer my car wants me top move any faster than 
that, he is going to have to physically pull me from the car.
And I don't carte if he is chasing Attilla the Hun, that will bring about a 
nice law suit, and you know as well as I do that I would win.
Or Barbara.  Or whoever it is done to.
Remember, "common sense" has to work on both sides -- the LEO and the ALC.
Alan
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