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echo: adhd
to: JANE KELLEY
from: MARK PROBERT
date: 1998-03-21 08:31:00
subject: Ritalin

JANE KELLEY was thinking about Ritalin and keyed into cyberspace:
JK> MP> The "stuff" you just downloaded should rot your hard drive. Alan
JK> MP> Zametkin at the NIH (you do know what that is, don't you?)
JK> MP> demonstrated  underactivity in the area of the brain which
JK> MP> controls impulsivity nearly  a decade ago. Recently, a team led
JK> MP> by him found that the same area is proportionately smaller in
JK> MP> the ADHD brain. 
JK>Haven't found that one, have seen other "studies" coming from  that
JK>same  source in the past that are very much open to debate.
Do you even know what NIH is? Do you have the slightest idea how someone 
is appointed to the staff? 
JK>And which have long since been outdated by other research.
Then visit this web site:
	http://nimh.nih.gov/publicat/adhd/htm
This site will provide you with the current state of *scientific* 
knowledge of ADHD. You will see the PET scans in color. You will see 
Castellanos' work showing physiological difference in the ADHD brain. 
Of course, if you want to remain terminally clueless, you will not go.
JK> MP> As soon as one of your "sources" becomes credible, I'll be glad
JK> MP> to check. So far, you rely on Doc Neher and the marketing team.
JK>Since I have provided several other sources and you have responded
JK>indicating  that you have not only read the posts but understand
JK>them, this is pure  crappola, big time.
Nope. I understand them fully. Ole' Doc Neher's magic potion, now 
marketed as Restores, formerly marketed as StressX, was supposed to have 
been subjected to a double blind, placebo controlled, study in 1991 in 
see how effective it really is for ADHD. Seems no one has the findings. 
Hmmm....I wonder why that is? Perhaps the pro-medication conspiracy is 
suppressing it. Right, Jane?
BTW, the sales sites for Restores are funny. Everyone of them has the 
same information and the same incorrectly spelled words. If they can't 
even get that right....
JK>And your usual rebuttal to anything said that doesn't agree with what
JK>you  think.
Not me. I provide source ***verifiable*** information developed by 
scientific researchers that has been published in juried journals to 
rebut your baloney. 
The mere fact that ALL CHILDREN will react the same way
JK>when given  Ritalin negates anything you may say on this subject.
Nope. All children will have ***some degree of reaction*** when given 
MPH. However, the ADHD child will have a dramatic positive reaction 
where they will be able to control themselves. That is something that 
the non-ADHDer can do without medication. 
In
JK>fact, those kids  who have no signs of ADHD and are plain and simply
JK>bored stiff in school  would also behave like little angels on the
JK>stuff! 
Nope. Not at all. First off, their reaction would be minor compared to 
the ADHDer. Second, MPH has no effect on boredom.
JK> MP> JK> MP> PET scans have shown that there are areas in the brain
JK> MP> JK> MP> that are underactive and when MPH is administered, they
JK> MP> JK> MP> return to the norma level of functioning.
JK>Why?  Has anyone bothered to find out how many so called "normal"
JK>people have  this same area in the brain?  What does happen to
JK>control subjects who are  not diagnosed as ADD or ADHD when given the
JK>same doses for the same length of  time?
The control subjects who receive placebo do not show the dramatic 
changes that those who have ADHD do. When the PET and MRI scanning was 
performed, the control subjects showed a substantial difference.
Go to the website I referred you to. The information is there.
JK>AND WOULD A REMEDIAL DIET DO THE SAME THING AS THE DRUG?
Nope. Every time a remedial diet was tried on ADHD kids, there was no 
difference from placebo.
JK> MP> No, silly, we use medications for those who require it. Even if
JK> MP> we know  what is causing it, and it is probably genetics, then
JK> MP> what do you  propose to do? Tell a person that they can lead a
JK> MP> screwed up life and still be happy because we now know what is
JK> MP> causing it?
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