From: "Geo" 

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Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about MS rating vulns in their products and =
using multiple exploits to root a machine. If an MS vuln requires you go =
to a hostile website for it to be able to exploit you, sending you to =
that website is trivial via other exploits like using a pdf file = included
in an email. PDF files are not generally thought of as a = threat, people
email them to each other all the time.

As for my eeye claim, there are still 5 remote code execution exploits =
listed on their "unpublished" page that have not been patched, of
the = ones announced this month, there were 4, one of which is media player
9 = exploit that will affect even xpsp2. It's trivial to make a pdf file =
play a movie, it's a feature, the pdf can even contain the trojaned avi =
file. (ohhh, perhaps I should mention that to eeye..)

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:43504a2e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Since when does Microsoft rate vulnerabilites in adobe acrobat =
reader or whatever you are using when you claim to run a program from a =
PDF file?  Or is this just you trying to change the topic again.

     To remind you of your earlier claim from =
news://news.barkto.com/42d308d2$1{at}w3.nls.net you wrote "eeye could
wipe = out 95% of the world's computers any time they want".  You even
had the = nerve to claim that not only are you right but that the burden is
on = everyone else to prove you wrong.  Are you now mature enough to admit
= you are wrong?

  Rich

    "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:43502a3b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I'm talking about Microsofts own rating of the eeye exploits. As for =
your family not running any systems vulnerable to the latest exploits MS =
announced, when did they switch to linux?

    Geo.

      "Rich"  wrote in message news:434f3273{at}w3.nls.net...
         Are you claiming that eeye is behind this as well or is this =
just you trying to change the topic?

      Rich

        "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:434f1a9e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
        and they never open pdf files either I bet.. (remember how they =
can be used
        to send you off to any website I want?)

        Geo. (did I mention I found a way to open calc.exe from a pdf?)

        "Mike N."  wrote in message
        news:n47tk11hjj25pbrch5msih91oo493d81eh{at}4ax.com...
        > On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:50:16 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
        >
        > >   My machines were not at risk to any of these eeye reported =
issues.
        > >I don't think any of my family or friends are at risk to any =
of these
        either.
        >
        >   And just how were your family and friends protected from =
this one?  Does
        > everyone you know surf everywhere with all active content =
disabled?
        >
        > =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-052.mspx
        >


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Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about MS =
rating vulns=20
in their products and using multiple exploits to root a machine. If an = MS vuln=20
requires you go to a hostile website for it to be able to exploit you, = sending=20
you to that website is trivial via other exploits like using a pdf file = included=20
in an email. PDF files are not generally thought of as a threat, people = email=20
them to each other all the time.
 
As for my eeye claim, there
are still 5 =
remote code=20
execution exploits listed on their "unpublished" page that have not been =

patched, of the ones announced this month, there were 4, one of which is = media=20
player 9 exploit that will affect even xpsp2. It's trivial to make a pdf = file=20
play a movie, it's a feature, the pdf can even contain the trojaned avi = file.=20
(ohhh, perhaps I should mention that to eeye..)
 
Geo.

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43504a2e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
     Since when does =
Microsoft rate=20
  vulnerabilites in adobe acrobat reader or whatever you are using when =
you=20
  claim to run a program from a PDF file?  Or is this just you =
trying to=20
  change the topic again.
   
     To
remind you of your =
earlier claim=20
  from news://news.barkto.com/42d308d2$1{at}w3.nls.net">news://news.barkto.=
com/42d308d2$1{at}w3.nls.net=20
  you wrote "eeye could wipe out 95% of the world's computers any time =
they=20
  want".  You even had the nerve to claim that not only are you =
right but=20
  that the burden is on everyone else to prove you wrong.  Are you =
now=20
  mature enough to admit you are wrong?
   
  Rich
   
  

    "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
    wrote in message news:43502a3b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    I'm talking about Microsofts own rating of the eeye exploits. =
As for=20
    your family not running any systems vulnerable to the latest =
exploits MS=20
    announced, when did they switch to
linux?Geo.
    

      "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:434f3273{at}w3.nls.net...
         Are
you claiming =
that eeye is=20
      behind this as well or is this just you trying to change the=20
      topic?
       
      Rich
       
      
        "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
        wrote in message news:434f1a9e$1{at}w3.nls.net...and=20
        they never open pdf files either I bet.. (remember how they can =
be=20
        usedto send you off to any website I
want?)Geo. (did =
I=20
        mention I found a way to open calc.exe from a
pdf?)"Mike =
N."=20
        <mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net>=20">mailto:mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net">mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net>=20
        wrote in messagenews:n47tk11hjj2=
5pbrch5msih91oo493d81eh{at}4ax.com...>=20
        On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:50:16 -0700, "Rich" <{at}>=20
        wrote:>>
>   My machines were not at =
risk to=20
        any of these eeye reported issues.> >I
don't think any =
of my=20
        family or friends are at risk to any of=20
       
theseeither.>>  
And just how were =
your=20
        family and friends protected from this one? 
Does> =
everyone=20
        you know surf everywhere with all active content=20
        disabled?>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-052.mspx"=
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-052.mspx;=
>

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