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echo: nthelp
to: Rich
from: Geo
date: 2005-10-16 11:31:32
subject: Re: HDCP

From: "Geo" 

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Why do you make everything personal? I make a statement that I believe =
reflects the reality of the situation and you turn it into a personal =
dig.

Do you have any idea of how many thousands of dollars I have spent on =
pre-recorded DVD's? I have a bookcase that is 6 shelves of nothing but =
commercial DVDs so don't give me that steal shit. I buy what everything = I
want (heck I own 2 copies of the firefly series, one for me and one = for
loaning to friends), if I download the same thing to save me the = work of
ripping and encoding it too fucking bad, that's called format = shifting
and it's defendable in court.

what I don't do, is accept that how I use the DVD's I buy is anyone's =
business but mine. I have not signed any contracts to further expand the =
copyright holders rights beyond those provided by US copyright law.

So, when the new HD-DVD's come out, I may buy them but I'll be damned if =
I'm going to let anyone tell me I can't watch them on whatever device I =
have. But that's me, I'm a geek who understands how to make this stuff =
work as I want.

Everyone else will have their own reasons, and I believe that many of =
them who find their high resolution LCD monitors, HD TV's, $9k plasma =
TV's won't allow them to play HD content via dvi input are going to find =
a way to make them play HD content, and I believe that solution stands a =
very good chance of including the fileshare networks, which is going to =
really hurt the market that requires special copyprotection enabled =
hardware.

They idiots are providing more motivation to violate copyrights. A lot =
more motivation.

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:43513038{at}w3.nls.net...
    Irrelevant.  People like you may intend to steal what you can but =
you would anyway.

  Rich

    "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:43510699$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    HDCP is such a stupid idea. All it takes is one person to hook into =
the monitor signal after the decryption or one person to build an HDCP =
capable recording device and all the protected media will end up on the =
file share networks completely unprotected. HDCP is an idea that's = doomed
to failure, and if the content is something people want to see = and those
people don't have HDCP capabilities guess where they are going = to get the
content instead of buying it?

    Geo.
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Why do you make everything personal? I =
make a=20
statement that I believe reflects the reality of the situation and you = turn it=20
into a personal dig.
 
Do you have any idea of how many =
thousands of=20
dollars I have spent on pre-recorded DVD's? I have a bookcase that is 6 = shelves=20
of nothing but commercial DVDs so don't give me that steal shit. I buy = what=20
everything I want (heck I own 2 copies of the firefly series, one for me = and one=20
for loaning to friends), if I download the same thing to save me the = work of=20
ripping and encoding it too fucking bad, that's called format shifting = and it's=20
defendable in court.
 
what I don't do, is accept that how I =
use the DVD's=20
I buy is anyone's business but mine. I have not signed any contracts to = further=20
expand the copyright holders rights beyond those provided
by = US=20
copyright law.
 
So, when the new HD-DVD's come out, I =
may buy them=20
but I'll be damned if I'm going to let anyone tell me I can't watch them = on=20
whatever device I have. But that's me, I'm a geek who understands how to = make=20
this stuff work as I want.
 
Everyone else will have their own =
reasons, and I=20
believe that many of them who find their high resolution LCD =
monitors, HD=20
TV's, $9k plasma TV's won't allow them to play
HD content = via=20
dvi input are going to find a way to make them play HD =
content, and I=20
believe that solution stands a very good chance of including the =
fileshare=20
networks, which is going to really hurt the market that requires special =

copyprotection enabled hardware.
 
They idiots are providing more =
motivation to=20
violate copyrights. A lot more motivation.
 
Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43513038{at}w3.nls.net... Irrelevant. People like = you may=20 intend to steal what you can but you would anyway. Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20 wrote in message news:43510699$1{at}w3.nls.net... HDCP is such a stupid idea. All it = takes is one=20 person to hook into the monitor signal after the decryption or one = person to=20 build an HDCP capable recording device and all the protected media = will end=20 up on the file share networks completely unprotected. HDCP is an = idea that's=20 doomed to failure, and if the content is something people want to = see and=20 those people don't have HDCP capabilities guess where they are going = to get=20 the content instead of buying it? Geo. ------=_NextPart_000_00F1_01C5D245.295F8770-- --- BBBS/NT v4.01 Flag-5
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