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to: LEE LOFASO
from: Steve Asher
date: 2004-12-18 22:02:52
subject: Oz `Freedom of Religion`

Mulling over LEE LOFASO to STEVE ASHER 16 Dec 2004

Hi Lee...

>SA>If it ain't in the Catechism or the Magisterium, or Encyclical, they sure
>SA>spend a lot of time & effort weaseling to state or imply that it is.

>LL>Some do.  But that doesn't mean that such a teaching exists.

SA>OK, well, don't try the search. :)

 LL> Oh, it's fun doing searches.  Even for obscure things.  ;)

Yes, I do it all the time ... usually for obscure things. :)

SA>I've been told that I am "not qualified" to understand the meaning of
SA>the papal bull "Unam Sanctam", which declares, says, determines, and
SA>pronounces ... what, exactly? I guess I could take "Holy Orders" to
SA>find the secret meaning, but I'll stick with the clear wording unless
SA>someone cares to reveal the secret. :)

 LL> Obfuscation is a word best left to government bureaucrats.  And
 LL> church officials.  ;)

In the case of government bureacrats (secretaries of state & the like),
it is "solid intelligence". (chortle)

SA>Unam Sanctam

SA>(snip)

SA>"Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for
SA>every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to
SA>the authority of the Roman pontiff" (Porro subesse Romano Pontifici
SA>omni humanae creaturae declaramus, dicimus, definimus, et pronuntiamus
SA>omnino esse de necessitate salutis).

SA>(snip)

SA>Source: Catholic Encyclopedia - http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15126a.htm

 LL> I'm a bit rusty on Latin...

How about English?

Cheers, Steve..

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