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to: Rich
from: Mike `/m`
date: 2005-10-06 21:20:38
subject: Re:Outlook`s UI is inconsistent

From: Mike '/m' 

If that is the case, then why can I enter that same dotted quad email
address into other address fields (such as tthe From: field) and Outlook
accepts it without your kludgy workaround?

 /m


On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:47:43 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:

>   It's not a work around.  That is how you specify an email address with
special characters.  As you have made clear you prefer to whine and
complain and will repeatedly do so.
>
>Rich
>
>  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
news:vj4bk1p6lbo9umbic44q9kph80vbvqdb28{at}4ax.com...
>
>  I read and saw a kludgy workaround.
>
>  I did not see anything that resolved the bug.  Maybe you could quote the
>  part of your message that resolves the bug?
>
>   /m
>
>  On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:04:25 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
>
>  >   Still demonstrating that you would rather complain then read and learn
how you are wrong.
>  >
>  >Rich
>  >
>  >  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
news:5oi8k15acbme7bhvo1vnnsh7iehooc94fg{at}4ax.com...
>  >
>  >  Another interesting aspect of this bug is that the From: fields and the
>  >  Reply To: fields allow the dotted quad email address.  Only the To:
>  >  field has the bug that does not allow a valid dotted quad email address
>  >  to be entered.
>  >
>  >  If a valid email address is accepted in the From: and Reply To: fields,
>  >  why isn't it accepted in the To: field?
>  >
>  >  Sounds like someone has a UI consistency bug to fix, at the very least.
>  >
>  >   /m
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:13:54 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
>  >
>  >  >   Or you could have just read my email before you replied to it with
more complaints and more evidence that you care more about complaining than
the topics about which you complain.
>  >  >
>  >  >Rich
>  >  >
>  >  >  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
news:8rmoj111q3g7s3sbuarrdenedijcsrvvuc{at}4ax.com...
>  >  >
>  >  >  I played with this a bit more today.
>  >  >
>  >  >  I changed the address that Outlook puts in the From: field for
outgoing
>  >  >  emails to email{at}[123.123.123.123] (I'll call this a
"dotted quad"
>  >  >  address for this message), then saved that new config.  I
sent myself
an
>  >  >  email.  When the email arrived in my inbox, the From:
address was the
>  >  >  dotted quad.  I OMB clicked on the dotted quad address,
and selected
the
>  >  >  add it to my address book option.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Then I changed the From: address back to what it should be.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Now I can send an email to that dotted quad address,
Outlook accepts
it
>  >  >  as input.
>  >  >
>  >  >  The reason I did this is that previously when I wanted to send an
email
>  >  >  to a dotted quad address, I could enter it into the To: field, but
>  >  >  Outlook would not allow me to send it.  Outlook would
push me over to
>  >  >  enter the address into Outlook's address book.
>  >  >
>  >  >  I guess that Outlook doesn't allow me to send an email to
someone who
is
>  >  >  not in my address book?  I'm not sure why it would do this, I know
that
>  >  >  Outlook 97 didn't have this behavior.  Maybe that's why Outlook '97
>  >  >  worked and Outlook 2003 doesn't.
>  >  >
>  >  >  In any case, it looks like it may be the input routines
for entering
an
>  >  >  email address into Outlook's address book that has the problem with
the
>  >  >  RFC-compliant dotted quad address.  Once a dotted quad
address is in
the
>  >  >  address book, I can send email to it.
>  >  >
>  >  >  Weird.
>  >  >
>  >  >   /m
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:50:32 -0400, "Geo"
 wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >  >"Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
>  >  >  >news:25ugj1psik6mb69ifo2vfg6u7fg5uapm43{at}4ax.com...
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >> I have not been able to get Outlook to send an email to
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >>    email{at}[123.123.123.123]
>  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >> where 123.123.123.123 is the IP address of a
email server, and
'email'
>  >  >  >> is a valid email account on that server.  I
believe this is an RFC
>  >  >  >> requirement, just like proper SMTP handling.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Perhaps you have an email admin like me who blocks email to an
{at}ipaddress
>  >  >  >address? Some things need to change because of spam
and many of the
rfc's
>  >  >  >are sort of unchanging if you know what I mean.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Oh, I also block remote bounce notifications because
they cause more
>  >  >  >problems than they solve. If you accept the email
then deliver it,
don't be
>  >  >  >returning it as undeliverable after you accept
delivery is how it
works in
>  >  >  >todays spam and virus filled world.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >> Also, I keep nicknames for my friends.  For
example, I use bob-w
for Bob
>  >  >  >> at work, Bob-h for Bob at home.  Well, Bob
changed jobs, so I
changed
>  >  >  >> the email address for Bob-w in the address book
to his new email
>  >  >  >> address.  Unfortunately, Outlook also stores the
email address
somewhere
>  >  >  >> else, and insists on sending Bob-w emails to his
old email address.
I've
>  >  >  >> not found the other location in the address book
or configuration
>  >  >  >> options yet.  I now have a NewBob-w entry in the
address book to
work
>  >  >  >> around this feature.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Yeah, Microsoft probably let the guy who did IE's braindead
autocomplete
>  >  >  >write that stupid routine. He need to be 2x4'd.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >> Don't get me started on Outlook and IMAP....
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >I don't believe in IMAP in the ISP world, it's a po
box not a damn
garage.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Geo.
>  >  >  >

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