BS ->First, I see many multi-part UUENCODE'ed postings in Fido, so I'm
   ->not sure your 125-line limit really exists.
It does, but as you say, it may be moot. 
BS ->Secondly, it bothers me that Fidonet is the only medium on which
   ->advertising is free, if we allow it.  In the press, TV, even
   ->the Internet, the advertiser pays.
BS ->I believe that advertising when a product is genuinely new (not
   ->just an update), and thereafter every six months, should be plenty.
Thanks for your input. I've done some scrounging and am looking at
making the following the basis for a new set of rules. There's some
folks on comp.lang.clipper who want to split Visual Objects away to a
separate newsgroup. These are excerpts from the current charter for
comp.lang.clipper and for the proposed one for the new Visual Objects
newsgroup. Since we cover both here, I'm trying to merge them.
comp.lang.clipper.misc will be a newsgroup for programmers interested in
the Clipper applications development language.  The purpose of the new
newsgroup is:
(1) To discuss the design, programming, and administration of systems
    and applications which use the Clipper programming language.
(2) To share ideas, information, and specific experience regarding
    design and programming of applications with Clipper.
(3) To discuss new products of interest to Clipper developers,
    including updates to Clipper itself and third-party add-on
    products, their usage, advantages and drawbacks, and where
    shareware/freeware can be found for downloading;
(4) To educate and inform others about the strengths, weaknesses, and
    general usage of Clipper to solve real world problems; and
(5) To allow brief announcements of products and events
    specifically for Clipper programmers.  This specifically
    excludes:
    (a) General-purpose programming tools;
    (b) Announcements of over 20 lines of text;
    (c) Advertisements listing specific prices and ordering
        information;
    (d) Advertisements for products and events which are not
        substantially specific to the needs of Clipper
        developers; and
    (e) Any product or event that has been announced on
        comp.lang.clipper.misc within the past 30 days.
CHARTER: comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects
comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects will be a newsgroup for
programmers interested in the CA-Visual Objects (VO) applications
development system.  The purpose of the new newsgroup is:
(1) To discuss the design, programming, and administration of systems
    and applications which use CA-Visual Objects.
(2) To share ideas, information, and specific experience regarding
    design and programming of applications with CA-Visual Objects.
(3) To discuss new products of interest to CA-Visual Objects developers,
    including updates to CA-Visual Objects itself and third-party add-on
    products, their usage, advantages and drawbacks, and where
    shareware/freeware can be found for downloading;
(4) To educate and inform others about the strengths, weaknesses, and
    general usage of CA-Visual Objects to solve real world problems; and
(5) To allow brief announcements of products and events
    specifically for CA-Visual Objects programmers.
    This specifically excludes:
    (a) General-purpose programming tools;
    (b) Announcements of over 20 lines of text;
    (c) Advertisements listing specific prices and ordering
        information;
    (d) Advertisements for products and events which are not
        substantially specific to the needs of CA-Visual Objects
        developers;
    (e) Any product or event that has been announced on
        comp.lang.clipper.visual-objects within the past 30
        days; and
    (f) Recruitment announcements that are not specific to
        developers using CA-Visual Objects.
What's your opinion on these?
BS ->This all raises the question as to whether CD-ROM distributions
   ->such as that under discussion have been rendered obsolete by
   ->the Internet.
Although Eric brought it up, albeit inadvertently, the policy will
cover all announcements. As Phil wrote it, it also covered stuff that
was aimed specifically at Clipper developers, and I've always been a
bit uneasy on that one.
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