From: Mike '/m' 


So then you think it is OK that the To: does not accept a valid
RFC-compliant email address without the need to use your kludgy
work-around?





On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 21:56:02 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:

>   Your attempts at spinning aren't accomplishing more than making yourself
dizzy.  Your head is obviously not clear.
>
>   In other words, why is the format for SMTP only fields different from
fields that support arbitrary target types like FAX, telex, and X.500?  The
answer should be clear.  And neither the optional from or reply to fields
in an email message are one of these.  Those use the syntax you didn't know
and feel compelled to complain about than say thank you.
>
>Rich
>
>  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
news:t6jbk1d58fs0jgk1riekrct82ok5gcdira{at}4ax.com...
>  If that is the case, then why can I enter that same dotted quad email
>  address into other address fields (such as tthe From: field) and Outlook
>  accepts it without your kludgy workaround?
>
>   /m
>
>
>  On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 17:47:43 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
>
>  >   It's not a work around.  That is how you specify an email address with
special characters.  As you have made clear you prefer to whine and
complain and will repeatedly do so.
>  >
>  >Rich
>  >
>  >  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
news:vj4bk1p6lbo9umbic44q9kph80vbvqdb28{at}4ax.com...
>  >
>  >  I read and saw a kludgy workaround.
>  >
>  >  I did not see anything that resolved the bug.  Maybe you could quote the
>  >  part of your message that resolves the bug?
>  >
>  >   /m
>  >
>  >  On Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:04:25 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
>  >
>  >  >   Still demonstrating that you would rather complain then read and
learn how you are wrong.
>  >  >
>  >  >Rich
>  >  >
>  >  >  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message
news:5oi8k15acbme7bhvo1vnnsh7iehooc94fg{at}4ax.com...
>  >  >
>  >  >  Another interesting aspect of this bug is that the From: fields and
the
>  >  >  Reply To: fields allow the dotted quad email address.  Only the To:
>  >  >  field has the bug that does not allow a valid dotted quad email
address
>  >  >  to be entered.
>  >  >
>  >  >  If a valid email address is accepted in the From: and Reply To:
fields,
>  >  >  why isn't it accepted in the To: field?
>  >  >
>  >  >  Sounds like someone has a UI consistency bug to fix, at the very
least.
>  >  >
>  >  >   /m
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:13:54 -0700, "Rich"
 wrote:
>  >  >
>  >  >  >   Or you could have just read my email before you
replied to it with
more complaints and more evidence that you care more about complaining than
the topics about which you complain.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >Rich
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  "Mike '/m'"  wrote
in message
news:8rmoj111q3g7s3sbuarrdenedijcsrvvuc{at}4ax.com...
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I played with this a bit more today.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I changed the address that Outlook puts in the
From: field for
outgoing
>  >  >  >  emails to email{at}[123.123.123.123] (I'll call this a
"dotted quad"
>  >  >  >  address for this message), then saved that new
config.  I sent
myself an
>  >  >  >  email.  When the email arrived in my inbox, the
From: address was
the
>  >  >  >  dotted quad.  I OMB clicked on the dotted quad address, and
selected the
>  >  >  >  add it to my address book option.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Then I changed the From: address back to what it should be.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Now I can send an email to that dotted quad address, Outlook
accepts it
>  >  >  >  as input.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  The reason I did this is that previously when I
wanted to send an
email
>  >  >  >  to a dotted quad address, I could enter it into the
To: field, but
>  >  >  >  Outlook would not allow me to send it.  Outlook
would push me over
to
>  >  >  >  enter the address into Outlook's address book.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  I guess that Outlook doesn't allow me to send an
email to someone
who is
>  >  >  >  not in my address book?  I'm not sure why it would
do this, I know
that
>  >  >  >  Outlook 97 didn't have this behavior.  Maybe that's
why Outlook '97
>  >  >  >  worked and Outlook 2003 doesn't.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  In any case, it looks like it may be the input routines for
entering an
>  >  >  >  email address into Outlook's address book that has
the problem with
the
>  >  >  >  RFC-compliant dotted quad address.  Once a dotted
quad address is
in the
>  >  >  >  address book, I can send email to it.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  Weird.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >   /m
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 21:50:32 -0400, "Geo"
 wrote:
>  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >"Mike '/m'" 
wrote in message
>  >  >  >  >news:25ugj1psik6mb69ifo2vfg6u7fg5uapm43{at}4ax.com...
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >> I have not been able to get Outlook to
send an email to
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >>    email{at}[123.123.123.123]
>  >  >  >  >>
>  >  >  >  >> where 123.123.123.123 is the IP address of
a email server, and
'email'
>  >  >  >  >> is a valid email account on that server. 
I believe this is an
RFC
>  >  >  >  >> requirement, just like proper SMTP handling.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >Perhaps you have an email admin like me who
blocks email to an
{at}ipaddress
>  >  >  >  >address? Some things need to change because of
spam and many of
the rfc's
>  >  >  >  >are sort of unchanging if you know what I mean.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >Oh, I also block remote bounce notifications
because they cause
more
>  >  >  >  >problems than they solve. If you accept the
email then deliver it,
don't be
>  >  >  >  >returning it as undeliverable after you accept
delivery is how it
works in
>  >  >  >  >todays spam and virus filled world.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >> Also, I keep nicknames for my friends. 
For example, I use bob-w
for Bob
>  >  >  >  >> at work, Bob-h for Bob at home.  Well, Bob
changed jobs, so I
changed
>  >  >  >  >> the email address for Bob-w in the address
book to his new email
>  >  >  >  >> address.  Unfortunately, Outlook also
stores the email address
somewhere
>  >  >  >  >> else, and insists on sending Bob-w emails
to his old email
address. I've
>  >  >  >  >> not found the other location in the address book or
configuration
>  >  >  >  >> options yet.  I now have a NewBob-w entry
in the address book to
work
>  >  >  >  >> around this feature.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >Yeah, Microsoft probably let the guy who did
IE's braindead
autocomplete
>  >  >  >  >write that stupid routine. He need to be 2x4'd.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >> Don't get me started on Outlook and IMAP....
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >I don't believe in IMAP in the ISP world, it's
a po box not a damn
garage.
>  >  >  >  >
>  >  >  >  >Geo.
>  >  >  >  >

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