From: "Rich"
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What does you response have to do with your ability to check whatever =
you want? If you believe your claim is that norton protected machines =
are trojaned then don't check for that.
Rich
"Geo" wrote in message
news:43491dec{at}w3.nls.net...
Not entirely true, if the feature is available to any software I load =
on the machine then it's up to the programmer as well. If both Intel and =
MS had built in user controls so that we could turn on the capabilities =
for whatever programs we wanted to allow to access these security =
features then I might agree with your "it's up to you" statement.
I don't like control of my machine being taken away from me.
Geo.
"Rich" wrote in message news:4347640f{at}w3.nls.net...
Check whatever you want. It's up to you.
Rich
"Geo" wrote in message =
news:43470b84{at}w3.nls.net...
enabled and up to date antivirus means nothing. I can't count the =
number of Norton protected machines that are trojaned that I see on a = daily basis.
Geo.
"Rich" wrote in message news:43455f13$1{at}w3.nls.net...
First, DRM is irrelevant here and unless you are trying to =
spread FUD I don't see why you would mention it.
As for the rest, you should be going back in time. See =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/prodtech/windowsserver2003/quar=
antineservices/default.mspx. You can perform whatever validation you =
want on the client. Typical checks would be to verify that client =
security policy is met such as enabled and up to date antivirus and =
firewall.
In Longhorn this gets extended to the LAN. See =
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/networking/nap/de=
fault.mspx.
I believe Cisco also has products in this space.
Rich
"John Beckett"
wrote in =
message news:fpq9k19od4ntbh0flgobh19p4kclbgqetn{at}4ax.com...
"Geo" wrote in message =
news::
> I guess I'm stupid but I only use VPN's to link secure =
networks together,
> using one to allow an insecure computer total access to a =
secure network
> seems like a security accident just waiting to happen.. =
Insecure machines
> like wandering laptops belong on their own network =
firewalled from the
> secure network with only limited access.
We live in interesting times...
Fast-forwarding to the future by, say, two years:
The only half-way decent procedure to allow a roaming laptop =
to have
remote access to your network is to require that the laptop be =
running a
DRM-protected system, including hardware, BIOS and OS. That =
way, you will
know that only trusted software is running on the machine.
Anything less than the Microsoft/Intel/et-al DRM initiative =
means you just
won't be able to allow roaming machines to connect to the core =
office
network.
John
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Rich
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wrote=20
in message news:43491dec{at}w3.nls.net...
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features then I might agree with your "it's up to you" =
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Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4347640f{at}w3.nls.net...
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It's up to you.
Rich
"Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
wrote in message news:43470b84{at}w3.nls.net...
enabled and up to date antivirus =
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nothing. I can't count the number of Norton protected machines =
that are=20
trojaned that I see on a daily basis.
Geo.
"Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43455f13$1{at}w3.nls.net...
First, DRM is =
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and unless you are trying to spread FUD I don't see why you =
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g/nap/default.mspx">http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologi=
es/networking/nap/default.mspx.
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Rich
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