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to: Tony Williams
from: Rich
date: 2005-10-14 21:47:32
subject: Re: HDCP

From: "Rich" 

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   The "strings" to which you refer apply only to the new feature so its =
not really a string. =20

   I suspect DVD region coding is unknown to most DVD users in the U.S.

   An alternative to HDCP capable monitors is either effectively the =
same or not an alternative if HDCP is mandated.  Even so, I think you =
have it backwards.  There is no restriction imposed by an HDCP capable =
monitor just like there is none from an HDCP capable television.  It is =
the content that imposes the restriction.  This will either succeed or =
fail depending on whether the target customers mind the restriction.  =
HDCP capable TVs and monitors the issue go away for the people that have =
them.

Rich

  "Tony Williams"  wrote in message =
news:4350682e{at}w3.nls.net...
  The question in my mind is whether people will want that capability if =

  it comes with strings attached. It worked in the US with region =
encoded=20
  DVDs because that wasn't such a big deal at the time (most of the=20
  blockbuster DVDs come out first in the US so why should people here =
care).

  Look outside the US and "region free" DVD players are very popular -=20
  enough so that HD-DVD won't have region encoding. If there are similar =

  alternatives to  HDCP-capable monitors then that's what people will =
buy.=20
  And this time the US will be in the same boat as the rest of the =
world.

  --=20
  Tony

  Rich wrote:
  >    It seems simple to me.  People will buy HDCP capable computer=20
  > displays if or when they want to view content that requires HDCP.  =
This=20
  > is not something people do on computers today so it should appear as =
a=20
  > new feature of new hardware and software.
  > =20
  > Rich
  > =20
  >=20
  >     "Tony Williams"  wrote =
in
  >     message news:43500e4b{at}w3.nls.net...
  >=20
  >     Fair point when it comes to home systems, but even so there's a
  >     limit to
  >     what people will put up with. I suppose it's a matter of public
  >     awareness and the public is getting more savvy when it comes to
  >     computers.
  >=20
  >     I still think it will take legislation to make DRM-encumbered =
monitors
  >     sell, to take one example.
  >=20
  >     --=20
  >     Tony
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   The
"strings" to which you =
refer apply=20
only to the new feature so its not really a string. 

 
   I suspect
DVD region =
coding is unknown=20
to most DVD users in the U.S.
 
   An
alternative to HDCP =
capable=20
monitors is either effectively the same or not an alternative if HDCP is =

mandated.  Even so, I think you have it backwards.  There
is = no=20
restriction imposed by an HDCP capable monitor just like there is none = from an=20
HDCP capable television.  It is the content that imposes the=20
restriction.  This will either succeed or fail depending on
whether = the=20
target customers mind the restriction.  HDCP capable TVs and =
monitors the=20
issue go away for the people that have
them.
Rich
 

  "Tony Williams" <tonyw{at}blarg.net>">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net">tonyw{at}blarg.net>
wrote in =
message news:4350682e{at}w3.nls.net...Th=
e=20
  question in my mind is whether people will want that capability if =
it=20
  comes with strings attached. It worked in the US with region encoded =
DVDs=20
  because that wasn't such a big deal at the time (most of the =
blockbuster=20
  DVDs come out first in the US so why should people here =
care).Look=20
  outside the US and "region free" DVD players are very popular - =
enough so=20
  that HD-DVD won't have region encoding. If there are similar =
alternatives=20
  to  HDCP-capable monitors then that's what people will buy. =
And this=20
  time the US will be in the same boat as the rest of the =
world.--=20
  TonyRich
wrote:>    It seems simple =
to=20
  me.  People will buy HDCP capable computer >
displays if =
or when=20
  they want to view content that requires HDCP.  This
> is =
not=20
  something people do on computers today so it should appear as a =
> new=20
  feature of new hardware and software.> 
>=20
  Rich>  >
>     "Tony =
Williams"=20
  <tonyw{at}blarg.net">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net">tonyw{at}blarg.net
<mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net>>">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net>>
=
wrote=20
  in>     message news:43500e4b{at}w3.nls.net...>=
=20
  >     Fair point
when it comes to home =
systems, but=20
  even so there's
a>     limit=20
  to>     what people
will put up with. I =
suppose=20
  it's a matter of
public>     awareness
and =
the=20
  public is getting more savvy when it comes =
to>    =20
  computers.>
>     I still think it
=
will take=20
  legislation to make DRM-encumbered =
monitors>    =20
  sell, to take one example.>
>     -- =

  >    
Tony

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