On Sat, 15 Feb 2014, Nicholas Boel wrote to All:

 RJ> To anyone who send me a info pack (messages or ibbs one) to be hatch
 RJ> out. It must be about 10 lines and about 40 col. across and no high
 RJ> ascii, in the file_id.diz, if it isn't I won't hatch it out.

 NB> Don't use garbage software and you won't have that problem.

that's not the problem, nick... the problem is some descriptions are 

1. too long (trying to list everything in the doc file)
2. look like crap when rewrapped
3. look like crap on web pages

the descriptions are supposed to conform to the FILE_ID.DIZ spec...

 NB> In that case, if anyone is interested in hatching out their
 NB> currently active  network's infopacks, contact me via netmail
 NB> (1:154/10) and I'll gladly  help setup a way to hatch them out on
 NB> Agoranet's FDN in the AGN_INFO file  echo. 

the descriptions still look like crap when they get rewrapped or displayed
on web pages no matter what network they are hatched out into...

 NB> You will not have any limitations as to how I will hatch out your
 NB> network's  information packet that has been released the same way
 NB> for years, 

and they've been "not right" (as opposed to being wrong) for all
this time...

 NB> instead of being forced to change your setup because
 NB> someone chooses to use outdated and  unsupported software that
 NB> can't handle standard ASCII \/,.'"!{at}#$%^&*()  characters or any
 NB> other *normal* standards for the file_id.diz format. 

it isn't the software that's the problem and we are trying to get folks to
conform to the DIZ specs... it is also not just robert's FDN but all the
others where this has been happening... folks are complaining again just
like they do every few years... i get notes from users asking me why my
file descriptions look like crap and i just point to the FDN distribution
and whoever created the DIZ with the mess inside it :shrug:

eg: can you read the following?? i can't...


.g00r00_presents__________ _
   :     :: :  \   ® ª/ : :::  :
 _ ____:_______/     / dEMONIC :
     :: /           / pRODUCTIONZ
_   :: /     y/    /____________
    : /      /    /         ® ª/
     /      /    /    y/      / :
  _ /___________/_     ______/  :
  :     : : :: /            / ::
 _  _: _ _____/____________/_   _    _ 
:                                      
  mpe add-on for mystic bbs v1.05
  allows the user to select their current
  message base via their arrow keys, using
: a lightbar system.  mpe source included


what about this one?


[[ >> qUICK lOGON mPE fOR mYSTIC 1.04b // ]]
______>------->\____________>\---->\_______
\_________    _//___ ________/_    _______/
__/     -/     /    -______/_  \  /-    \_
\______ _    //______ _    //___\/_     //mg
--->>_______//--->>_______//--->>______//---
dEMONIC mODDING aND cODING pRODUCTIONZ 1999!


or this one??


  ,,a. Warlock
ad$$$$aaa
  `$$$$$  `$$, `$$$$,a.
   l$$$$   l$$  l$$$$$$
   :$$$$:: :$$$: $$$$$$
    l$$$l :l$$$l $$$$$$
    :$$$$ga,._ : :$$S"'
     $$$y^       y"'
     $$

..  Warlock Pack viewer door
door for win32, linux, dos
---------------------------
author  Gossamer Axe
---------------------------



or this one...


          ššššššššššš
        øááá ššššš áýáUUUý
 šššššga ššUUUUUUUUUš _UUUý
ááUUUUUUýñøáááøøUUUUUY UYøUý
    áUUUUý      _UUUUY øášU
šUUY_UUUUY _šš   UUUUU UUUý
UUý _UášøY  UUUš UUUUU _UUýý
 Uý UY ñY   UUUU áUUUUY UUUý
 Uá UUøøY   _UUUU _UUUU _UUýý
 š _UUUU    _UUUU _UUUU  áUUý
UYá_UUUU  ø  UUUU  UUUUý  UUU
UU UUUUU     ýUUUø UUUýýY Uýýñøø
UUš áUUUUšøšýýUUUšUUUUýá _UUU
_UUUšš ááUUUUUUUUUUáá ššUUUýý
 UáøYýýšš  áááááá      áUUýý
_Y   øñý    Warlock    _UýýY
Uøø øU     pack #001    _UU
áUUýá BBS Mods, Darkness UY
 _U   IGMs, BBS Logos    _Y
 _Y   Menus, etc.,       _
  ý   Sept/2001          š
  š    Leech It!      ššUU
  _UššššššššššUUUUUUUUýáá
    ááááááááááááááá



now, take a look at them on a web page...

http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files2/FDIST/DDSBBS/
http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files2/FDIST/DDSDOORS/


the recent artpack release with a full graphic description is really really
bad when seen on a web page... it is much worse when it is all wrapped...
then there's what happens when it is cut short... i think i finally was
able to see that it was supposed to be a skull...

)\/(ark

One of the great tragedies of life is the murder of a beautiful theory by a
gang of brutal facts. --Benjamin Franklin

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