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   What I describe is a copy not a conversion.  There may be conversion =
somewhere.  I found copy to be both easy to understand and easy to do.

Rich

  "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message =
news:43403474$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  Thanks.  That assumes you can get into the old file cleanly to move =
the=20
  material to the new format/size.  From your description, it's a one =
way=20
  conversion, and there is no "auto convert" of an existing file =
(especially=20
  if it's oversize already).

  I think one of the shareware/commercial recovery programs is the path =
to go,=20
  and use it to recover from the still existing full size too large PST =
file.

  I think that's the path I'm going for now.

  --=20

  Glenn M.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:433e0df9{at}w3.nls.net...
     All I can say is that I have a PST larger than 2GB with Outlook =
2003.  I=20
  can't tell you what the upper limit is.  Based on file I/O it is no =
longer=20
  4GB.  There may be other limits that kick in.

     In Outlook 2003 when you create a new PST there is a choice between =

  Outlook 97-2002 format and the current format.  You want the current =
format=20
  which is not backward compatible with pre-Outlook 2003.  The only way =
I know=20
  how to switch an existing file to the new format is to create a new =
file and=20
  move all messages from the old file to the new one.  That is what I =
did.  If=20
  there is another way I don't know it.  Creating a new file and moving =
was=20
  easy enough I never looked further.

  Rich

    "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message=20
  news:433d6391$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    OK, based on that (32 bit vs 64 bit), would that over 2gig limit =
file be
    openable with Office 2003?  Would I then be able to compact it/clean =
it=20
  up,
    and then when it's properly "shrunk" in size, re-open it in Office =
XP, or
    does Office 2003 make a change to the file during it's =
opening/compacting
    that's not backward compatible?

    (Thinking out loud, in finding a machine with Office XP installed, =
and=20
  using
    that to repair the particular PST file).

    --=20

    Glenn M.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:433c9e62$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       In Office XP the PST file I/O uses 32-bit file offsets.  In =
Office 2003
    the file I/O uses 64-bit offsets.  I don't know if the file format =
itself
    has some limit.  As I have a PST that is larger than 2GB that I use =
with
    Office 11.

       If you have two PSTs reported as opened I would check to see if =
you=20
  don't
    have two different paths to the same file.  If this happened to me I =
would
    go to the data file options and if two are listed remove one.  If =
only one
    is listed I would delete the MAPI profile and recreate it.

    Rich

      "Glenn Meadows"  wrote in message
    news:433c45c6$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      The 2 gig file size limit...is that an Outlook limit, or a hard =
OS/File
      System limit?  Running on Windows 2K, and I believe formatted =
partition=20
  is
      NTFS.  Might be Fat32 though..

      Reason I ask, is I just spent the bulk of today repairing a PST =
file=20
  that
      had exceeded the file size, and could not be opened.  Had to =
download=20
  the
      2gig limit truncation program, and then run Scanpst.exe to repair =
the
    file.
      Lots of resulting corruption, for example, all the peoples names =
are=20
  gone
    in
      his contacts list, but the internal info on each entry is there.

      He's now getting close to 3000 reminders opening, almost like =
every
    reminder
      he's ever set is now back.

      In the process of correcting this, we did upgrade to Office XP =
from=20
  Office
      2K.  At least in Office XP, the reminders come up in a Reminders =
list,
      rather than a gazillion popup reminder windows on his desktop, =
which was
      crashing Outlook.

      Also, now even though we're only opening 1 PST file, it shows as =
2,=20
  which
      are identical, and neither can be closed, which does indicate it's =
the
    same
      file, with 2 instances being displayed.  Even the indications on =
the
    folder
      list match, when an email arrives, it shows as (1) in both =
inboxes.
    Anyone
      have any clue how to fix that????

      He's in massive "trim" mode right now, as well as running compact =
on the
      file.  What really killed him space was, is he has tons of =
documents=20
  saved
      with his Tasks list, and tons of attachments included in his =
email.
    .

      --=20

      Glenn M.




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   What I
describe is a copy =
not a=20
conversion.  There may be conversion somewhere.  I found
copy = to be=20
both easy to understand and easy to do.
Rich
 

  "Glenn Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:43403474$1{at}w3.nls.net...Thanks. =20
  That assumes you can get into the old file cleanly to move the =
material to=20
  the new format/size.  From your description, it's a one way=20
  conversion, and there is no "auto convert" of an
existing file =
(especially=20
  if it's oversize already).I think one of the =
shareware/commercial=20
  recovery programs is the path to go, and use it to recover from =
the still=20
  existing full size too large PST file.I think that's the path =
I'm=20
  going for now.-- Glenn
M."Rich" <{at}> wrote in =
message=20
  news:433e0df9{at}w3.nls.net...&nbs=
p; =20
  All I can say is that I have a PST larger than 2GB with Outlook =
2003.  I=20
  can't tell you what the upper limit is.  Based on file I/O it =
is no=20
  longer 4GB.  There may be other limits that kick=20
  in.   In Outlook 2003 when you
create a new PST =
there is a=20
  choice between Outlook 97-2002 format and the current =
format.  You=20
  want the current format which is not backward compatible with =
pre-Outlook=20
  2003.  The only way I know how to switch an existing file to =
the new=20
  format is to create a new file and move all messages from the old =
file to=20
  the new one.  That is what I did.  If there
is another =
way I=20
  don't know it.  Creating a new file and moving was easy =
enough I=20
  never looked
further.Rich  "Glenn
Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:433d6391$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
 =20
  OK, based on that (32 bit vs 64 bit), would that over 2gig limit file=20
  be  openable with Office 2003?  Would I then
be able to =
compact=20
  it/clean it up,  and then when it's properly
"shrunk" in =
size,=20
  re-open it in Office XP, or  does Office 2003 make a change =
to the=20
  file during it's opening/compacting  that's not backward=20
  compatible?  (Thinking out loud, in finding
a machine =
with Office=20
  XP installed, and using  that to repair the
particular =
PST=20
  file).  --  
Glenn M.  "Rich" =
<{at}>=20
  wrote in message news:433c9e62$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
    =20
  In Office XP the PST file I/O uses 32-bit file offsets.  In =
Office=20
  2003  the file I/O uses 64-bit offsets.  I
don't know if =
the=20
  file format itself  has some limit.  As I have a PST =
that is=20
  larger than 2GB that I use with  Office=20
  11.     If you
have two PSTs reported as =
opened I=20
  would check to see if you don't  have two
different paths =
to the=20
  same file.  If this happened to me I would  go to the =
data file=20
  options and if two are listed remove one.  If only
one  =
is=20
  listed I would delete the MAPI profile and recreate
it. =20
  Rich    "Glenn
Meadows" <gmeadow{at}comcast.net>">mailto:gmeadow{at}comcast.net">gmeadow{at}comcast.net>
wrote =
in=20
  message  news:433c45c6$1{at}w3.nls.net...=
   =20
  The 2 gig file size limit...is that an Outlook limit, or a hard=20
  OS/File    System limit? 
Running on Windows =
2K, and I=20
  believe formatted partition
is    NTFS.  =
Might be=20
  Fat32 though..    Reason I
ask, is I just spent =
the=20
  bulk of today repairing a PST file
that    had =
exceeded=20
  the file size, and could not be opened.  Had to download=20
  the    2gig limit
truncation program, and then =
run=20
  Scanpst.exe to repair the 
file.    Lots =
of=20
  resulting corruption, for example, all the peoples names are=20
  gone 
in    his contacts list, but the =

  internal info on each entry is
there.    He's =
now=20
  getting close to 3000 reminders opening, almost like every =20
  reminder    he's ever set is now=20
  back.    In the process of
correcting this, we =
did=20
  upgrade to Office XP from
Office    2K.  =
At least=20
  in Office XP, the reminders come up in a Reminders =
list,   =20
  rather than a gazillion popup reminder windows on his desktop, which=20
  was    crashing
Outlook.    =
Also,=20
  now even though we're only opening 1 PST file, it shows as 2,=20
  which    are identical,
and neither can be =
closed,=20
  which does indicate it's the 
same    =
file, with 2=20
  instances being displayed.  Even the indications on
the  =

  folder    list match, when an email
arrives, it =
shows as=20
  (1) in both inboxes. 
Anyone    have any =
clue how=20
  to fix that????    He's in
massive "trim" mode =
right=20
  now, as well as running compact on the    =
file.  What=20
  really killed him space was, is he has tons of documents=20
  saved    with his Tasks
list, and tons of =
attachments=20
  included in his email.  =
<sigh>.    --=20
      Glenn =
M.

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