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   RRAS is not insecure.  You can select the allowed security and =
authentication on the server.  You can mandate smart cards if you wish.

   Logon scripts don't run because this isn't logging on.  You can use =
the connection manager to set scripts to run on connect and disconnect.

Rich

  "John Cuccia"  wrote in message =
news:8upqj1p7b4oei3nd9er25t7hjdjqd1kgpt{at}4ax.com...
  On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:27:45 -0400, Richard B. 
  wrote:

  >On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:29:50 -0500, John Cuccia 
  >wrote:
  >
  >>Marathon uses some sort of Nortel boxes and SecureID tokens.=20
  >
  >Any experience using RRAS? =20

  Using it, yes.  Configuring it, unfortunately not, although I will be
  attempting an implementation in the next two or three weeks, for a new
  client.  (I'm not really a computer guy, I just play one to make
  money).

  >I'd like to find/do something that isn't horribly complicated to =
setup
  >and secure but I have to assume my users will find trouble getting
  >from there to here.

  RRAS is probably as simple as it gets from the users perspective,
  which also probably means it is the least secure VPN method.   All
  users need to do to connect is double click the icon you create for
  them in "Network Connections" and then enter their normal login
  credentials.   I don't think logon scripts run over RRAS VPN
  connections, however, so you may need to create a batch file that does
  users "Net use" to map driver letters to network shares and put a
  shortcut to it on their desktops.

  Actually, I have the makings of a VBScript that asks for logon
  credentials, connects using an existing VPN connection object, and
  then attempts to map drives and printers.  I'll send it to you when
  you're ready.  Be warned, thought, that while it works for me, various
  users seem to have trouble with it.  Don't know if it is the
  troublemak,...er, users or the script at this time.

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mandate smart cards if you wish.
 
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scripts to run=20
on connect and disconnect.
 
Rich
 

  "John Cuccia" <jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>">mailto:jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com">jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:8upqj1p7b4o=
ei3nd9er25t7hjdjqd1kgpt{at}4ax.com...On=20
  Fri, 30 Sep 2005 11:27:45 -0400, Richard B. <TDNBW{at}barktopus.com>wrote:=">mailto:TDNBW{at}barktopus.com">TDNBW{at}barktopus.com>wrote:=
>On=20
  Fri, 30 Sep 2005 09:29:50 -0500, John Cuccia <jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>>wr=">mailto:jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com">jcuccia{at}bigfoot.com>>wr=
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  guy, I just play one to
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