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HDCP is such a stupid idea. All it takes is one person to hook into the =
monitor signal after the decryption or one person to build an HDCP =
capable recording device and all the protected media will end up on the =
file share networks completely unprotected. HDCP is an idea that's = doomed
to failure, and if the content is something people want to see = and those
people don't have HDCP capabilities guess where they are going = to get the
content instead of buying it?

Geo.
  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4350898c{at}w3.nls.net...
     The "strings" to which you refer apply only to the new feature so =
its not really a string. =20

     I suspect DVD region coding is unknown to most DVD users in the =
U.S.

     An alternative to HDCP capable monitors is either effectively the =
same or not an alternative if HDCP is mandated.  Even so, I think you =
have it backwards.  There is no restriction imposed by an HDCP capable =
monitor just like there is none from an HDCP capable television.  It is =
the content that imposes the restriction.  This will either succeed or =
fail depending on whether the target customers mind the restriction.  =
HDCP capable TVs and monitors the issue go away for the people that have =
them.

  Rich

    "Tony Williams"  wrote in message =
news:4350682e{at}w3.nls.net...
    The question in my mind is whether people will want that capability =
if=20
    it comes with strings attached. It worked in the US with region =
encoded=20
    DVDs because that wasn't such a big deal at the time (most of the=20
    blockbuster DVDs come out first in the US so why should people here =
care).

    Look outside the US and "region free" DVD players are very popular - =

    enough so that HD-DVD won't have region encoding. If there are =
similar=20
    alternatives to  HDCP-capable monitors then that's what people will =
buy.=20
    And this time the US will be in the same boat as the rest of the =
world.

    --=20
    Tony

    Rich wrote:
    >    It seems simple to me.  People will buy HDCP capable computer=20
    > displays if or when they want to view content that requires HDCP.  =
This=20
    > is not something people do on computers today so it should appear =
as a=20
    > new feature of new hardware and software.
    > =20
    > Rich
    > =20
    >=20
    >     "Tony Williams"  =
wrote in
    >     message news:43500e4b{at}w3.nls.net...
    >=20
    >     Fair point when it comes to home systems, but even so there's =
a
    >     limit to
    >     what people will put up with. I suppose it's a matter of =
public
    >     awareness and the public is getting more savvy when it comes =
to
    >     computers.
    >=20
    >     I still think it will take legislation to make DRM-encumbered =
monitors
    >     sell, to take one example.
    >=20
    >     --=20
    >     Tony
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HDCP is such a stupid idea. All it =
takes is one=20
person to hook into the monitor signal after the decryption or one = person to=20
build an HDCP capable recording device and all the protected media will = end up=20
on the file share networks completely unprotected. HDCP is an idea = that's doomed=20
to failure, and if the content is something people want to see and those = people=20
don't have HDCP capabilities guess where they are going to get the = content=20
instead of buying it?
 
Geo.

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4350898c{at}w3.nls.net...
     The
"strings" to which =
you refer=20
  apply only to the new feature so its not really a string.  =

   
     I
suspect DVD region =
coding is=20
  unknown to most DVD users in the U.S.
   
     An
alternative to HDCP =
capable=20
  monitors is either effectively the same or not an alternative if HDCP =
is=20
  mandated.  Even so, I think you have it backwards.  There is =
no=20
  restriction imposed by an HDCP capable monitor just like there is none =
from an=20
  HDCP capable television.  It is the content that imposes the=20
  restriction.  This will either succeed or fail depending on =
whether the=20
  target customers mind the restriction.  HDCP capable TVs and =
monitors the=20
  issue go away for the people that have them.
  Rich
   
  
    "Tony Williams" <tonyw{at}blarg.net>">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net">tonyw{at}blarg.net>
wrote in =
message news:4350682e{at}w3.nls.net...Th=
e=20
    question in my mind is whether people will want that capability if =
it=20
    comes with strings attached. It worked in the US with region encoded =

    DVDs because that wasn't such a big deal at the time (most of =
the=20
    blockbuster DVDs come out first in the US so why should people =
here=20
    care).Look outside the US and "region
free" DVD players are =
very=20
    popular - enough so that HD-DVD won't have region encoding. If =
there are=20
    similar alternatives to  HDCP-capable monitors then that's =
what=20
    people will buy. And this time the US will be in the same boat =
as the=20
    rest of the world.--
TonyRich=20
    wrote:>    It seems simple
to me.  People =
will=20
    buy HDCP capable computer > displays if or when they want to =
view=20
    content that requires HDCP.  This > is not something =
people do=20
    on computers today so it should appear as a > new feature of =
new=20
    hardware and software.>  >
Rich>  =
>=20
    >     "Tony
Williams" <tonyw{at}blarg.net">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net">tonyw{at}blarg.net
<mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net>>">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net">mailto:tonyw{at}blarg.net>>
=
wrote=20
    in>     message news:43500e4b{at}w3.nls.net...>=
=20
    >     Fair point
when it comes to home =
systems,=20
    but even so there's
a>     limit=20
    to>     what
people will put up with. I =
suppose=20
    it's a matter of
public>     awareness
=
and the=20
    public is getting more savvy when it comes=20
    to>    
computers.>=20
    >     I still
think it will take =
legislation to=20
    make DRM-encumbered
monitors>     sell, =
to take=20
    one example.>
>     --=20
    >     =
Tony

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