From: "Rich" 

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   You still haven't been mature and honest enough to admit you are =
wrong.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:435276b3{at}w3.nls.net...
  Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about MS rating vulns in their products =
and using multiple exploits to root a machine. If an MS vuln requires = you
go to a hostile website for it to be able to exploit you, sending = you to
that website is trivial via other exploits like using a pdf file = included
in an email. PDF files are not generally thought of as a = threat, people
email them to each other all the time.

  As for my eeye claim, there are still 5 remote code execution exploits =
listed on their "unpublished" page that have not been patched, of
the = ones announced this month, there were 4, one of which is media player
9 = exploit that will affect even xpsp2. It's trivial to make a pdf file =
play a movie, it's a feature, the pdf can even contain the trojaned avi =
file. (ohhh, perhaps I should mention that to eeye..)

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:43504a2e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Since when does Microsoft rate vulnerabilites in adobe acrobat =
reader or whatever you are using when you claim to run a program from a =
PDF file?  Or is this just you trying to change the topic again.

       To remind you of your earlier claim from =
news://news.barkto.com/42d308d2$1{at}w3.nls.net you wrote "eeye could
wipe = out 95% of the world's computers any time they want".  You even
had the = nerve to claim that not only are you right but that the burden is
on = everyone else to prove you wrong.  Are you now mature enough to admit
= you are wrong?

    Rich

      "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:43502a3b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      I'm talking about Microsofts own rating of the eeye exploits. As =
for your family not running any systems vulnerable to the latest = exploits
MS announced, when did they switch to linux?

      Geo.

        "Rich"  wrote in message news:434f3273{at}w3.nls.net...
           Are you claiming that eeye is behind this as well or is this =
just you trying to change the topic?

        Rich

          "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:434f1a9e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
          and they never open pdf files either I bet.. (remember how =
they can be used
          to send you off to any website I want?)

          Geo. (did I mention I found a way to open calc.exe from a =
pdf?)

          "Mike N."  wrote in message
          news:n47tk11hjj25pbrch5msih91oo493d81eh{at}4ax.com...
          > On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:50:16 -0700, "Rich"  wrote:
          >
          > >   My machines were not at risk to any of these eeye =
reported issues.
          > >I don't think any of my family or friends are at risk to =
any of these
          either.
          >
          >   And just how were your family and friends protected from =
this one?  Does
          > everyone you know surf everywhere with all active content =
disabled?
          >
          > =
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-052.mspx
          >


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   You still
haven't been =
mature and=20
honest enough to admit you are wrong.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:435276b3{at}w3.nls.net...
  Don't be obtuse, I'm talking
about MS =
rating=20
  vulns in their products and using multiple exploits to root a machine. =
If an=20
  MS vuln requires you go to a hostile website for it to be able to =
exploit you,=20
  sending you to that website is trivial via other exploits like using a =
pdf=20
  file included in an email. PDF files are not generally thought of as a =
threat,=20
  people email them to each other all the time.
   
  As for my eeye claim, there
are still =
5 remote=20
  code execution exploits listed on their "unpublished" page that have =
not been=20
  patched, of the ones announced this month, there were 4, one of which =
is media=20
  player 9 exploit that will affect even xpsp2. It's trivial to make a =
pdf file=20
  play a movie, it's a feature, the pdf can even contain the trojaned =
avi file.=20
  (ohhh, perhaps I should mention that to eeye..)
   
  Geo.
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43504a2e$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Since
when does =
Microsoft rate=20
    vulnerabilites in adobe acrobat reader or whatever you are using =
when you=20
    claim to run a program from a PDF file?  Or is this just you =
trying to=20
    change the topic again.
     
       To
remind you of your =
earlier=20
    claim from news://news.barkto.com/42d308d2$1{at}w3.nls.net">news://news.barkto.=
com/42d308d2$1{at}w3.nls.net=20
    you wrote "eeye could wipe out 95% of the world's computers any time =
they=20
    want".  You even had the nerve to claim that not only are you =
right but=20
    that the burden is on everyone else to prove you wrong.  Are =
you now=20
    mature enough to admit you are wrong?
     
    Rich
     
    

      "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
      wrote in message news:43502a3b$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      I'm talking about Microsofts own rating of the eeye exploits. =
As for=20
      your family not running any systems vulnerable to the latest =
exploits MS=20
      announced, when did they switch to
linux?Geo.
      

        "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:434f3273{at}w3.nls.net...
          
Are you claiming =
that eeye is=20
        behind this as well or is this just you trying to change the=20
        topic?
         
        Rich
         
        
          "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote =
in message=20
          news:434f1a9e$1{at}w3.nls.net...and=20
          they never open pdf files either I bet.. (remember how they =
can be=20
          usedto send you off to any website I
want?)Geo. =
(did I=20
          mention I found a way to open calc.exe from a =
pdf?)"Mike N."=20
          <mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net>=20">mailto:mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net">mike{at}u-spam-u-die.net>=20
          wrote in messagenews:n47tk11hjj2=
5pbrch5msih91oo493d81eh{at}4ax.com...>=20
          On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:50:16 -0700, "Rich" <{at}>=20
          wrote:>>
>   My machines were not =
at risk=20
          to any of these eeye reported issues.> >I don't =
think any of=20
          my family or friends are at risk to any of=20
         
theseeither.>>  
And just how were =
your=20
          family and friends protected from this one? 
Does> =

          everyone you know surf everywhere with all active content=20
          disabled?>> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-052.mspx"=
>http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS05-052.mspx;=
>

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