From: "Rich" 

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   You can claim anything is defendable in court.  That doesn't make it =
so.  There is a difference between you format shifting a copy of media =
you own and trading pirated copies.

   Then you continue into how you are entitled to do as you wish.  You =
have made this clear which is why I brought it up.  It comes across in =
almost everything you write on electronic media and pirating.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:43527316{at}w3.nls.net...
  Why do you make everything personal? I make a statement that I believe =
reflects the reality of the situation and you turn it into a personal = dig.

  Do you have any idea of how many thousands of dollars I have spent on =
pre-recorded DVD's? I have a bookcase that is 6 shelves of nothing but =
commercial DVDs so don't give me that steal shit. I buy what everything = I
want (heck I own 2 copies of the firefly series, one for me and one = for
loaning to friends), if I download the same thing to save me the = work of
ripping and encoding it too fucking bad, that's called format = shifting
and it's defendable in court.

  what I don't do, is accept that how I use the DVD's I buy is anyone's =
business but mine. I have not signed any contracts to further expand the =
copyright holders rights beyond those provided by US copyright law.

  So, when the new HD-DVD's come out, I may buy them but I'll be damned =
if I'm going to let anyone tell me I can't watch them on whatever device =
I have. But that's me, I'm a geek who understands how to make this stuff =
work as I want.

  Everyone else will have their own reasons, and I believe that many of =
them who find their high resolution LCD monitors, HD TV's, $9k plasma =
TV's won't allow them to play HD content via dvi input are going to find =
a way to make them play HD content, and I believe that solution stands a =
very good chance of including the fileshare networks, which is going to =
really hurt the market that requires special copyprotection enabled =
hardware.

  They idiots are providing more motivation to violate copyrights. A lot =
more motivation.

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:43513038{at}w3.nls.net...
      Irrelevant.  People like you may intend to steal what you can but =
you would anyway.

    Rich

      "Geo"  wrote in message =
news:43510699$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      HDCP is such a stupid idea. All it takes is one person to hook =
into the monitor signal after the decryption or one person to build an =
HDCP capable recording device and all the protected media will end up on =
the file share networks completely unprotected. HDCP is an idea that's =
doomed to failure, and if the content is something people want to see = and
those people don't have HDCP capabilities guess where they are going = to
get the content instead of buying it?

      Geo.
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   You can
claim anything is =
defendable=20
in court.  That doesn't make it so.  There is a
difference = between you=20
format shifting a copy of media you own and trading pirated =
copies.
 
   Then you
continue into how =
you are=20
entitled to do as you wish.  You have made this clear which is why = I=20
brought it up.  It comes across in almost everything you write
on=20 electronic media and pirating.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:43527316{at}w3.nls.net...
  Why do you make everything personal? =
I make a=20
  statement that I believe reflects the reality of the situation and you =
turn it=20
  into a personal dig.
   
  Do you have any idea of how many =
thousands of=20
  dollars I have spent on pre-recorded DVD's? I have a bookcase that is =
6=20
  shelves of nothing but commercial DVDs so don't give me that steal =
shit. I buy=20
  what everything I want (heck I own 2 copies of the firefly series, one =
for me=20
  and one for loaning to friends), if I download the same thing to save =
me the=20
  work of ripping and encoding it too fucking bad, that's called format =
shifting=20
  and it's defendable in court.
   
  what I don't do, is accept
that how I =
use the=20
  DVD's I buy is anyone's business but mine. I have not signed any =
contracts to=20
  further expand the copyright holders rights beyond those =
provided by=20
  US copyright law.
   
  So, when the new HD-DVD's
come out, I =
may buy=20
  them but I'll be damned if I'm going to let anyone tell me I can't =
watch them=20
  on whatever device I have. But that's me, I'm a geek who understands =
how to=20
  make this stuff work as I want.
   
  Everyone else will have their own =
reasons, and I=20
  believe that many of them who find their high resolution LCD =
monitors, HD=20
  TV's, $9k plasma TV's won't allow them to play HD =
content via=20
  dvi input are going to find a way to make them play HD =
content, and=20
  I believe that solution stands a very good chance of =
including the=20
  fileshare networks, which is going to really hurt the market that =
requires=20
  special copyprotection enabled hardware.
   
  They idiots are providing more =
motivation to=20
  violate copyrights. A lot more motivation.
   
  Geo.
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43513038{at}w3.nls.net...
     
Irrelevant.  People =
like you may=20
    intend to steal what you can but you would anyway.
     
    Rich
     
    

      "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>=20">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>=20
      wrote in message news:43510699$1{at}w3.nls.net...
      HDCP is such a stupid idea. All =
it takes is=20
      one person to hook into the monitor signal after the decryption or =
one=20
      person to build an HDCP capable recording device and all the =
protected=20
      media will end up on the file share networks completely =
unprotected. HDCP=20
      is an idea that's doomed to failure, and if the content is =
something=20
      people want to see and those people don't have HDCP capabilities =
guess=20
      where they are going to get the content instead of buying =
it?
       
      Geo.<=
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