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from: Robert E Starr JR
date: 2006-09-22 13:18:00
subject: Re: My presidential pick

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Vorlonagent wrote:
> "Andrew Swallow"  wrote in message 
> news:WZudnUh5Rb19uIzYnZ2dnUVZ8qadnZ2d{at}bt.com...
>> Vorlonagent wrote:
>> [snip]
>>
>>> For the future, I agree.  We need to get our economy off the oil 
>>> standard.
>>> I would have agreed with that before 9/11 even.  The question is what to
>>> move to?  Nuclear power?   That would go
over well >> tone>.  Alterate energy sources aren't enough to fill the
gap left by 
>>> oil.
>>> We have a short-term solution in that shale oil is potentially
viable at 
>>> the
>>> current price per berrel and we have found new oil resevoirs offshore 
>>> near
>>> the US.  That will help but it's not sustainable for the long haul.
>> Try electric cars burning borohydride.
>>
http://www.newscientisttech.com/channel/tech/dn10066-new-type-of-hydrogen-fuel-cell-powers-up.html>
> 
> The article depicts a rechargable battery technology whoch doesn't help 
> energy *generation*.
> 
> The nice thing about oil is that it delivers more energy than it takes to 
> process.  The best you can expect is getting out what you put in.  And you 
> can't expect *that*.  If you get out half what you put in at today's 
> technology, you're doing incredibly good.  That means a MASSIVE increase in 
> electric power generation.
> 
> ....which puts us back where we started.  What do we do to make all that 
> power?  You up for building 20 or so new nuclear power plants?  I gurantee 
> there aren't enough sites for solar, wind, hydro, etc power to generate 
> double the energy we get from oil.

I doubt the lack of sites statement is true.  There are large
areas of hot desert in the USA.  Since the manufacturing of
borohydride is an industrial process it does not matter that
the sun does not rise in Arizona until after New Yorkers have
finished eating their breakfast.

Here is an article describing the process as a fuel for cars.
http://www.newscientisttech.com/channel/tech/mg19125621.200-a-fuel-tank-full-of-water.html?DCMP=ILC-OpenHouse&nsref=mg19125621.
There are some interesting diagrams in the printed version.

Andrew Swallow
                                                                   
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