S>    I'm just remarking about what I saw as an undergrad at two
MS>colleges, and  what my father saw teaching at those two colleges.
MS>Not only my father, but  other profs had trouble with students coming
MS>to class stoned or just cutting  class.
I believe you when you say you saw these things.  No one is disputing 
that.  There is no dispute that in some college some where there are 
serious problems, like the ones you have described.  But you over 
generalize when you lump colleges and college students together and draw 
conclusions based upon your limited experience.  The problems you 
describe are not the norm.
 
MS>    "Anecdotal accounts" do say what the observer saw, unless he is
MS>    lying. Neither my father nor I are lying about the discipline
MS>problems commonly  faced by profs in small private colleges.
Again, an over generalization.  True your father faced some discipline 
problems as a prof -- in HIS college--.  But you deceive yourself and 
others when you say this was common.  Statistically how many college 
students are we taking about?  5%??  10%??  higher?  Lower??  According 
to your reasoning then, you were a drunken college student who passed 
because of the pressure of the administration, not because of good 
grades.  As a dope head, you learned little except how to avoid work and 
your degree is worthless.  In addition to your drinking problem in 
college, you were a constant discipline problem and the professors were 
unable to do anything about it (because the administration blamed them 
and not you).  
Doesn't say much for you now does it?  So are you including yourself in 
that group or are you an exception??
Glad I earned my degree...both of them....
Dan
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