From: "Rich" 

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   The law says that you may not make copies as that right is reserved =
for the copyright holder.  There are criteria by which violations of = this
may be judged acceptable.  These are subjective.  Unless there is = law
that states that your friend's making copies is allowed, it is not.  = That
isn't the scenario you described though so is irrelevant.  Your = scenario
was you downloading a pirated copy.

   You can do whatever you want to the physical media you purchased.  =
You can't with the copyrighted content though I recognize that you =
repeatedly claim that you can.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:4352a7b0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  There is no law that says I can't have a friend format shift for me. =
There is no law that says it's "pirating" if we both already paid
for = copies. For that matter, there is nothing that says a copy of
something = in the virtual cyberspace realm is even considered to be in
tangible = form. Heck even the DMCA wouldn't apply to me if I downloaded an
= unprotected copy of a protected work I already owned because I wasn't =
the one who deprotected it.

  As for your second statement, if I own a DVD I AM entitied to do with =
it as I wish with the simple restrictions emposed on me by copyright = law.
That's the whole basis of copyrights (restricting my entitlement to = my
paid for copy) and why copyrights exist at all so I've no idea where = you
get off saying this isn't so. You must not understand copyright law = very
well..

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:43527e10{at}w3.nls.net...
       You can claim anything is defendable in court.  That doesn't make =
it so.  There is a difference between you format shifting a copy of = media
you own and trading pirated copies.

       Then you continue into how you are entitled to do as you wish.  =
You have made this clear which is why I brought it up.  It comes across =
in almost everything you write on electronic media and pirating.

    Rich


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   The law
says that you may =
not make=20
copies as that right is reserved for the copyright holder.  There = are=20
criteria by which violations of this may be judged acceptable.  =
These are=20
subjective.  Unless there is law that states that your friend's = making=20
copies is allowed, it is not.  That isn't the scenario you =
described though=20
so is irrelevant.  Your scenario was you downloading a pirated=20
copy.
 
   You can
do whatever you =
want to the=20
physical media you purchased.  You can't with the copyrighted = content=20
though I recognize that you repeatedly claim that you =
can.
Rich
 

  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:4352a7b0$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  There is no law that says I can't =
have a friend=20
  format shift for me. There is no law that says it's "pirating" =
if we both=20
  already paid for copies. For that matter, there is nothing that says a =
copy of=20
  something in the virtual cyberspace realm is even considered to be in =
tangible=20
  form. Heck even the DMCA wouldn't apply to me if I downloaded an =
unprotected=20
  copy of a protected work I already owned because I wasn't the one who=20
  deprotected it.
   
  As for your second statement, if I =
own a DVD I AM=20
  entitied to do with it as I wish with the simple restrictions emposed =
on me by=20
  copyright law. That's the whole basis of copyrights (restricting my=20
  entitlement to my paid for copy) and why copyrights exist at all =
so I've=20
  no idea where you get off saying this isn't so. You must not =
understand=20
  copyright law very well..
   
  Geo.
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43527e10{at}w3.nls.net...
       You
can claim anything =
is=20
    defendable in court.  That doesn't make it so.  There is a =

    difference between you format shifting a copy of media you own and =
trading=20
    pirated copies.
     
       Then
you continue into =
how you are=20
    entitled to do as you wish.  You have made this clear which is =
why I=20
    brought it up.  It comes across in almost everything you write =
on=20
    electronic media and pirating.
     
    Rich
     
     

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