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from: `digital_cowboy` nobody{at}
date: 2005-02-28 01:38:00
subject: Re: For those who seem to think that ANY house. . .

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And bird  opened up and revealed to the world
news:pan.2005.02.27.00.13.08.69647{at}invalid.com:

> On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 22:09:01 +0000, Digital_Cowboy wrote:
>
> > The only "problem" with that solution is that the
"tainted" plaster is
> > still there, and could potentually pose a danger.
> >
> > As an ambious bird could  still conceivably chew through the new
> > sheetrock. . .  And then you're right back where you started.
>
> Oh I dunno depends on how well you watch them and how quick they are. If
> they start to chew it you can fill it in with non-arsenic plaster and
> repaint.
>
> > I would think that if one was going to put up new sheetrock that it
> > would be best to tear out the old plaster and lath and then put up the
> > new sheetrock attaching it to the studs.
>
> You still attatch the sheetrock to the studs even with the old plaster
> up. Tearing out old plaster is a huge job. I did it in one room. Dust
> gets all over your entire house and you'll probably never get it
> entirely cleaned up. Works just as well and far less work putting
> sheetrock over it. Guess it all depends on what you think is safest for
> your birds. If you really think they're going to chew through the
> sheetrock *that* fast then maybe it is better to take down the old
> plaster. You've got your work cut out for you going that route :\ but
> personally I don't think any bird would get through it that fast. If you
> do decide to tear it down, be sure to put up plastic everywhere around
> the room you're doing it in to try and contain the dust.
>
>

Bird,

You make some good points.  I only found out about arsenic being in the
plaster when I was talking with a contractor friend of my fahter.  We were
talking about doing some remodeling in the kitchen.  Removing the old
cabinets and replacing them.  Not doing anything with or to the walls.
And he was telling me about how the plaster was made as well as the
"theory" behind why they did what they did.

Sadly, before I moved in with my Grandmother she became "confined" to the
first floor of the house.  Moving her bedroom into what used to be the
dining room.  No one had used the second floor in YEARS, and in some
places both the ceiling and the walls are crumbling.  So they'll need to
be replaced anyway.

What I was thinking of doing is/was waiting until the summer time when
it'll be warm enough to put my birds out on the enclosed front porch.
Then pulling the plaster down in as large of chunks as possible.

Hopefully doing that will also help to keep the dust down to a minimual,
as well as just doing one room at a time.

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