Hi, Lee Lofaso!
I read your message from 12.12.2017 03:04
JM>>> Get it into your thick heads that Trump most likely won after
JM>>> having being dealt information from the russians via Wikileaks.
ak>> Yeah, the mean Russians have stolen Clinton's information and then
ak>> began spread fake news about her. ;=) Verily, for making fake news
ak>> you should learn the truth, first. ;-) But, I doubt about
ak>> truthfulness of this rule, however.
LL> In every election, whether local or national, mistakes are made. By
LL> all candidates. The candidate who makes the most mistakes is
LL> usually the one who loses. Not always, but almost. In the contest
LL> between Trump and Clinton, both candidates clearly made mistakes.
LL> But it was Clinton who made the most, and worst mistakes. Most
LL> notably during the last two weeks of her campaign.
She didn't use Twitter, but Trump did his best on his bough. ;)
LL> Instead of focusing on getting out her own vote, in places where
LL> she needed high voter turnout, she chose to chase after areas she
LL> had little chance of winning. And also, very late in the game, she
LL> signed entertainers to draw people to her rallies. People came out
LL> to see Beyonc‚, and Jay-Z, and other stars put on a show. But
LL> nobody gave a fig to see Hillary Clinton.
Also there were some unpleasant blunders - for instance, before the TV
interview with Sanders she had secretly got the questions beforehand,
and she had time to prepare good answers. So, many Sanders' supporters
could vote against her in revenge.
ak>> Tell me at least one thing -- have the hacked information been
ak>> true? Tell me which pIEce of the ugly truth about Clinton was
ak>> opened in this way and prevented her from beating Trump?
LL> Hillary Clinton last because of Hillary Clinton. Not because of any
LL> emails or hacked information that may or may not have been true.
LL> Should election systems be made more secure? Of course. Not only in
LL> the US, but also in France, Germany, and in all other countries.
LL> Blaming others, or other countries, for one's own shortcomings is
LL> not a valid excuse.
Elections, in general, is a dirty thing in all countries. The candidates
don't shy to pour mud on each other, and every candidate wants to dig
some dirt up on his opponent. IMHO, it is not very bad unless the
compromising evidence is outrageously false. But, during a fair
campaign, any candidate has an opportunity to disprove the allegations,
even they come from "Russia Today". ;-) If he/she has a leg to stand on,
of course.
LL> If individuals from Russia had been able to do such damage, then
LL> individuals from other countries would also have been able to do
LL> the same.
Yes. And, for instance during previous Russian elections such media
outlets as "Voice of America", "Radio Freedom" etc broadcast many
information against those candidates the US don't like to see in power
in Russia. I believe such "interference" into election campaigns is a
good thing. In Russia we often cannot hear true information about
Russia, so we can get it from outside; in the US the mass media
sometimes keeps mum on many issues, too.
LL> Journalists and reporters have to do more to vet the information
LL> they get in order to determine if it is newsworthy. The same goes
LL> for news organizations. Attempts to mislead or misdirect are all
LL> part of the game in politics, and such efforts will continue until
LL> the end of time.
But the journalists are people too, and they also have their political
preferences. Russian journalists from "Russia Today" also have their
preferences during the US election campaign. Well, it is look like a
football game, and everyone expresses everything he thinks about those
fucking players he doesn't like. So, we should not never think that any
journalist always is unprejudiced.
It is like medicine. Do you wish to buy a pill from the company that was
caught on telling a lie? No, but if there are no honest companies you
should decide yourself.
LL> It is time to quit blaming Russians for all the problems in the
LL> world. Or Chinese, or other nationality of choice.
People have a feature -- they prone to believe to the things they want
to believe. For instance, the US people believe that North Korea wants
to strike it. They believe it, although it not true. Many scientist
believe in the results of their calculation. It is so called the
"expectation effect". Those who want to see faces on Mars surface or on
a wallpaper pattern , will also find them. ;-)
Bye, Lee!
Alexander Koryagin
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