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echo: consprcy
to: LEE LOFASO
from: George Pope
date: 2004-12-13 20:00:00
subject: Oz `Freedom of Religion`

LL> >LL>The Jewish concept of Messiah is different from the
Christian concept
LL> >LL>of Messiah.
LL>
LL> GP>According to Christianity, their concept __IS__ the fulfillment of
LL> GP>the JEWISH one!
LL>
LL> No, no, no, no.  You've got it all wrong.  There is a Jewish concept of
LL> Messiah, and there is a Christian concept of Messiah.  The two concepts
LL> are very different.  The Christian view is Jesus as Messiah, being both
LL> human and divine.  The Jewish view is a Messiah who is strictly human,
LL> one who will live and die, just as any other human.  Since Jesus lived,
LL> died, and rose again, according to the Jewish view He could not be the
LL> Messiah.

But the Christian view is supposed to be the Jewish one -- as there's only one
Messiah promised in the Scriptures! (okay, that's not true -- Cyrus was called
"a Messiah"!)

LL> For something to be regarded as being the Teaching of the Church,
LL> it must be noted in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, or in a
LL> Papal Encyclical.  Otherwise, it is not part of the Teaching of
LL> the Church.  Since "co-mediatrix" (or similar terms) is not noted
LL> in either the Catechism of the Catholic Church or in any Papal
LL> Encyclical, it is not part of the Teaching of the Church.

Ahhh, but the Rosary IS part of the Catechism, and the Rosary prayers are
clearly seeking mediation between man and God by Mary, quite in opposition to
the Scriptures!

LL> If a pope says something at a cocktail party, it is an opinion.
LL> But if a pope writes a Papal Encyclical, it is part of the Teaching
LL> of the Church.

And the Popes have since used the Papal Infallibility  clause twice, (once to
declare Papal Infallibility, and the second time to contradict the Bible by
saying Mary was born sinless and died a virgin)

LL> Some Catholics might believe in the concept of a "co-mediatrix".
LL> Those who do are merely stating an opinion.  However, there is no
LL> truth that the concept of a "co-mediatrix" is part of the Teaching
LL> of the Church.

See the prayers to Mary. . .

Your friend,
<+]::-{)}  (Cyberpope(the Bishop of ROM!))


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