From: "Rich" 

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   1.  Irrelevant.  Legal opinions here your own only.

   2.  Irrelevant.  POssibly not legal as no longer for personal use.

   3.  False.

   4.  Your topic changes are diversions when you fail to support your =
claims.  You have attempted so again.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message
news:43537bd8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  1. Who says a store bought dvd is a movie? You never purchased =
something like Stargate season 1? I happen to own seasons 1 thru 8, do =
you have any idea how long it would take to rip and divx encode that = many
episodes? Why should everyone who paid for the rights to own it = have to
spend time again and again encoding it to view over a network = DVD player?
It's no different than if you had someone convert all your = record albums
to DVD for you. Perfectly legal activity.

  2. Off the air recordings. You never had a friend record some show =
with a VCR and lend you the tape?

  3. Tivo is a 3rd party whom charges you for the service. So if they =
aren't doing the recording for you then what service are you paying for?

  4. This is the barktopus, subjects don't change as the discussion =
mutates. Complain to the sysop if you don't like it. (where is John O = anyway?)

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:43531857$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Did you change the topic to time shifting because you believe it =
has some relevance or are you just trying to change the topic again?  =
And, owning a tivo like owning a VCR has you doing the shifting not a =
third party so your attempt to make a connection between your = downloading
a pirated movie and this fails completely on this point.  It = also fails
because there is no DVD involved, the ownership of the = physical media of
such was your justification for downloading a pirated = copy.  Again no
connection to tivo.

    Rich

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1.  Irrelevant.  =
Legal=20
opinions here your own only.
 
  
2.  Irrelevant.  =
POssibly=20
not legal as no longer for personal use.
 
   3.  =
False.
 
  
4.  Your topic =
changes are=20
diversions when you fail to support your claims.  You have = attempted so=20
again.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:43537bd8$1{at}w3.nls.net...
  1. Who says a store bought dvd is a =
movie? You=20
  never purchased something like Stargate season 1? I happen to own =
seasons 1=20
  thru 8, do you have any idea how long it would take to rip and divx =
encode=20
  that many episodes? Why should everyone who paid for the rights to own =
it have=20
  to spend time again and again encoding it to view over a network DVD =
player?=20
  It's no different than if you had =
someone=20
  convert all your record albums to DVD for you. Perfectly legal=20
  activity.
   
  2. Off the air recordings. You never =
had a friend=20
  record some show with a VCR and lend you the
tape?
   
  3. Tivo is a 3rd party whom charges =
you for the=20
  service. So if they aren't doing the recording for you then what =
service are=20
  you paying for?
   
  4. This is the barktopus, subjects =
don't change=20
  as the discussion mutates. Complain to the sysop if you don't =
like it.=20
  (where is John O anyway?)
   
  Geo.
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:43531857$1{at}w3.nls.net...
       Did
you change the =
topic to time=20
    shifting because you believe it has some relevance or are you just =
trying to=20
    change the topic again?  And, owning a tivo like owning a VCR =
has you=20
    doing the shifting not a third party so your attempt to make a =
connection=20
    between your downloading a pirated movie and this fails completely =
on this=20
    point.  It also fails because there is no DVD involved, the =
ownership=20
    of the physical media of such was your justification for downloading =
a=20
    pirated copy.  Again no connection to tivo.
     
    Rich
     

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