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echo: educator
to: MATT SMITH
from: DAN TRIPLETT
date: 1996-07-01 23:46:00
subject: Re: Discipline

MS>    The problem with intoxicated-in-class college students varies
MS>greatly  from college to college, but one thing that's true
MS>nationwide is that  _serious_ campus crime heavily involves
MS>intoxicated students (ask a  campus-police administrator).  The
MS>classroom side of the problem can and does  sometimes get to the
MS>point that the prof will have difficulty teaching, as  I've seen
MS>happen in several courses.  In one a student started a shouting
MS>match in class with a prof.      Freshmen in college aren't too
MS>different from HS seniors, other than for  living away from home and
MS>having the ability to drink as much as they please  and cut class as
MS>much as they please while not being subject to either  parental
MS>discipline or typical HS rules (like attendance).  Is it any
MS>surprise to you that they are at least as*undisciplined as they were 
for
MS>  their HS teachers?
*SERIOUS* campus crime?  Of course...I wouldn't think that *serious* 
campus crime would heavily involve the intake of Oreo cookies.  If we 
were to take a look at the *serious* crime anywhere in America I think 
that drugs would be a significant factor.  If you think I am saying that 
alcohol/drugs on campus is not a problem you are wrong.  I would further 
contend that wherever it is happening (colleges/HS/middle schools...and 
yes even elementary schools) it should be considered serious.  But you 
can't use a wide brush to paint a finely detailed painting.  There are 
many other factors, both good and bad, that exist in our educational 
system today.  I would argue that the good decisively outweighs the bad 
at any educational establishment.  Certainly this is true of the 
majority.  
BTW...it is no surprise to me at all that college freshmen resemble high 
school seniors.  They are after all, only one year apart.  
Dan 
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