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> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 11:47:21 -0400, Jan wrote
(in article ):

> In article , Amy Guskin
> says...
>> 
>>>> On Fri, 22 Sep 2006 10:48:04 -0400, phil wrote
>> (in article ):
>> 
>>> On 17 Sep 2006 18:14:34 -0700, "Joseph DeMartino"
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> phil wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> unless the last person to work on your kitchen sink
drain was an idiot
>>>>> who Africian American engineered ...
>>>> 
>>>> Now *there's* a term that belongs on a civilized
discussion group.  Any
>>>> other stupid ethnic stereotypes you'd like to get off your
chest, phil?
>>>> 
>>>> And before you deny that you're a bigot, let me explain something to
>>>> you. If you USE that phrase, you ARE a bigot.  Casually
trafficking in
>>>> degrading stereotypes if one of the symptoms of that particular
>>>> disease.  
>>>> 
>>>> Joe
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> You don't _know_ me; you've never met me or spent any time in
>>> conversation and yet _you_ can parse my comment to conclude that I am
>>> a bigot; well _I_ can just as easily parse your statement to conclude
>>> that you are a bloviating buffoon, but _I_ wont.
>>> It was just such ad hominem assaults  combined with my illness that
>>> caused me to pull back from this group some 6 months ago.I see _now_
>>> that was the right decision.
>>> you have _no_ idea of how badly that idiot butchered this house; don't
>>> know his name or race, don't really care>  <<
>> 
>> Phil, to be fair to Joe, _you're_ the one who said "African American 
>> engineered."  Now, I have no idea what that means, but I
don't see how it 
>> can 
>> be taken as anything _but_ a racist comment.  And if you don't know his 
>> race, 
>> why would you call him that?
>> 
> 
> It took me a minute but I can only assume that "Africian American
engineered" 

> is
> a supposedly sanitized way of saying "n****r-rigged". 
Blech.  I need to go 
> wash
> my hands now. <<

Uh...

Gosh.  It's no wonder I didn't know what he meant.  I have never heard that 
term in my life.  After reading the initial post causing the furor, I went 
and looked up the sanitized term on urbandictionary.com but couldn't find it. 
 This one, I found.

But again, I don't know how that can be taken as anything but racist.

Thanks (I think), Jan.

Amy
                                                                           
                                        
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