On 06-30-96 MATT SMITH wrote to DAN TRIPLETT... 
 
 MS> DT> I saw many things, when I was a student in college, that I found  
 MS> DT> disturbing.  Many of the "discipline problems" you mention were, 
 MS> in  
 MS> DT> my  
 MS> DT> experience, dealing with college freshmen.  Yet I saw many 
 MS> "freshmen"  
 MS> DT> taking course work seriously.  Still these "FEW" college freshmen 
 MS> did  
 MS> DT> present a discipline challenge to the professors.  But the numbers 
 MS>  
 MS> DT> were  
 MS> DT> small and no where near the picture you paint. 
 MS>   
 MS>     The problem with intoxicated-in-class college students varies 
 MS> greatly  
 MS> from college to college, but one thing that's true nationwide is that  
 MS> _serious_ campus crime heavily involves intoxicated students (ask a  
 MS> campus-police administrator).  The classroom side of the problem can 
 MS> and does  
 MS> sometimes get to the point that the prof will have difficulty 
 MS> teaching, as  
 MS> I've seen happen in several courses.  In one a student started a 
 MS> shouting  
 MS> match in class with a prof.  
 MS>     Freshmen in college aren't too different from HS seniors, other 
 MS> than for  
 MS> living away from home and having the ability to drink as much as they 
 MS> please  
 MS> and cut class as much as they please while not being subject to either 
 MS>  
 MS> parental discipline or typical HS rules (like attendance).  Is it any  
 MS> surprise to you that they are at least as*undisciplined as they were 
 MS> for  
 MS> their HS teachers? 
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