From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
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Subject: Re: Antimatter experiment produces first beam of antihydrogen

GettingCloser{at}here.com wrote in
news:5av7e91cmqphuj5chjqoubsi0hdb1iove1{at}anonymous.eternal-september.org: 

> On Sat, 25 Jan 2014 10:21:25 +0100, Wouter Valentijn
>  wrote:
> 
>>Your Name schreef op 25-1-2014 06:21:
>>> In article ,
>>>  wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 19:09:54 +0100, Wouter Valentijn
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>> GettingCloser{at}here.com schreef op 24-1-2014 18:23:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I want my antimatter cigarette lighter, please!
>>>>>
>>>>> Nah, smoking is very unhealthy.
>>>>> But once you get your hands on some serious amounts of
antimatter,
>>>>> why not take inspiration from 'The Doomsday Machine'
and create a
>>>>> planet killer! Oh, wait.... That might be unhealthy also.....
>>>>
>>>> People do a lot of unhealthy things. As long as they do them to
>>>> themselves, it's really none of your business.
>>>>
>>>> Now when they do such things to OTHERS, especially the helpless,
>>>> that makes it EVERYBODY'S business.
>>> 
>>>
>>> I tend to agree, but there are added problems.
>>>
>>> Firstly, in many places your taxes are wasted to help people who
>>> make stupid decisions, for example health services for people who
>>> CHOOSE to smoke, rescue services for people who CHOOSE to climb a
>>> mountain, etc. Public taxes should not be used for these purposes,
>>> the people who choose to do those things should pay for any
>>> consequences themselves. 
>>
>>I also tend to agree here.
>>However, I also think that these services, like justice, should be 
>>blind. The principle of solidarity with all should be upheld. It is
>>the foundation of society.
>>
>>>
>>> Secondly, the people doing stupid things often cause damage to
>>> innocent bystanders. For example a drunk driver or idiot trying to
>>> escape the police crashes into an innocent road user or pedestrian.
>>
>>Indeed. Jail time for those I'd say.
>>
>>>
>>> The point of where to draw the line in interferring in what people
>>> do is difficult to establish ... although in 99% of cases, the
>>> policitcally correct fools are way over the line.
>>>
>>
>>The trouble is that life consists out of a lot of gray areas.
>>Things might indeed not always be clear and humans, imperfect as they 
>>are, can make mistakes. On either side of that vague line.
>>Society has people (we hope) that are qualified to make that judgment 
>>call. I try not to be the first one to throw stones.
> 
> Since we are now into politics...
> 
> Applying that to social and moral situations, what about those who
> deliberately live beyond their means with no intentions of ever paying
> back their debts and then declare personal bankruptcy?  Laws have been
> tightening on that but then you hear of the new IRS "forgiveness"
> where backtaxes can be completely forgiven ten cents on the dollar.
> 

Technically, ten cents on the dollar wouldn't be "completely" forgiven.

> However, when an overpaid CEO sails his company into the rocky shore
> and bankrupts the company, throwing thousands out of work and
> threatening the entire national economy, suddenly THEY are "too big to
> fail" and MUST be rescued.
> 
> Conservatives rally all day long against welfare for the individual as
> if it is worshipping Satan himself.
> 

Typical one-sided liberal hogwash.

> So Corporate Welfare = GOOD; Personal Welfare = BAD.
> 
> Conservatives never see the irony in how billions freely given to bad
> companies is good yet billions that might make people in bad
> situations productive  is good.
> 
> I blame conservatives for not being conservative.  Under Bush they
> grew the government more than ALL Presidents in the past COMBINED and
> strapped us with a phony war debt we will NEVER repay.
> 

Of course you do. Liberals are perfect, after all.

> Either way, you throw the dice.  Yet the rich's dice are always
> weighted by the legislation they write for Congress and is passed
> unread.
> 
> BTW: didn't Bush's unfunded Iraq war cost the country about $17
> TRILLION about now?  Think what could have been done with that money
> had the military and the President been worth a fuck on 9/11.
> 
> And don't get me started on Bush's TARP bailout that Obama bobbed his
> head and continued.
> 
> The rich get what they want because they are HOLY.  The poor just
> deserve to die because they didn't choose to be born rich with Daddy's
> money.
> 

LOL
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