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to: Gary Britt
from: Rich
date: 2006-01-17 23:26:38
subject: Re: Search Files tool for Indexing Service

From: "Rich" 

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   Older hardware doesn't matter.  If there is any user activity it =
stops.  It won't restart until there is a period of inactivity and will =
stop as soon as there is any.

Rich

  "Gary Britt"  wrote in message =
news:43cde00b{at}w3.nls.net...
  Well this was on a bit older hardware (but still should have been =
plenty
  fast enough to avoid this) and it was in a Domain situation that maybe =
could
  have had some effect on this.  I know for sure when I stopped the =
indexing
  service and disabled it, the problem immediately went away and never
  returned.  It was definitely related to hard disk activity, because I =
could
  see the hard disk indicator flickering busily as the problem was =
happening
  while I was typing in word.  When I stopped the indexing service, the =
hard
  disk activity went away and so did the interference with my keyboard
  responsiveness.

  I'm a fast touch typist with lots of macros via hotkeys inside and =
outside
  of word.  I have my keyboard repeat rate and mouse speeds set at =
speeds 90%
  or more of people find unusable.  I notice even a tenth of a second or =
so
  slowdown in keyboard responsiveness, and I was getting more =
interference
  than that.  Quite a bit more at times.

  Gary

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:43cdbd20{at}w3.nls.net...
     I very much doubt it was the indexing service as it goes idle when =
the
  machine is busy.  Windows Desktop Search is the same.  Neither would =
slow
  your keyboard response.

  Rich

    "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
  news:43cdb72a$1{at}w3.nls.net...
    No it was the indexing service.  Its background indexing was slowing
    keyboard response in Word 2K.  Thanks for the explanations.  I need =
to
  give
    copernic a try.

    Gary

    "John Beckett"  wrote in =
message
    news:pt4rs1t3mj68hmnh8bb8i138ptm90tae3t{at}4ax.com...
    > "Gary Britt"  wrote in message
    > news::
    > > Why even use the indexing service?
    >
    > If your files are all under My Documents, you probably don't need =
the
    > Indexing Service. Indexing is mostly useful for programmers or =
other
    > hapless people who hoard thousands of files, and have them in =
various
    > folders.
    >
    > > the indexing would slow down response time
    >
    > Perhaps you are thinking of the old 'Find Fast' that was once part =
of
    > Office. I have found that the Indexing Service is very well =
behaved, and
    > has no perceptible impact on my work. However, it does use a bunch =
of
  disk
    > space (used 0.5GB of the 16GB on my disk here).
    >
    > > is there any potential benefit to using the indexing service?
    >
    > It is only useful for searching files, and then only if your =
application
    > actually uses the Indexing Service. I don't think it indexes =
emails.
    > However, the various desktop search tools allow searching emails =
-- I
    > think they use their own tricks. I have never investigated this =
because
    > the occasional "Find" in Outlook is all I need for emails.
    >
    > Office has a built-in tool for searching files, and it will use =
the
    > Indexing Service if it is enabled. However, because the Indexing =
Service
    > lags behind your current work (i.e. it might not index a file for =
an
    > hour), and because indexing only occurs on C: drive by default, =
Office
    > also does a manual search which makes the result irritatingly =
slower
  than
    > what the Indexing Service can do.
    >
    > The GUI of the Office and Explorer file search is about right for =
people
    > doing an occasional search, but I imagine that many power users =
would
  far
    > prefer the simpler style of something like my Search program.
    >
    > John
    >



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  I very much doubt it was the indexing service as it goes idle when=20
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  Gary  "John Beckett" <FirstnameSurname{at}com=">mailto:FirstnameSurname{at}compuserve.com.omit">FirstnameSurname{at}com=
puserve.com.omit>=20
  wrote in message  news:pt4rs1t3mj6=
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  > "Gary Britt" <email{at}from_Gary_Britt.org&g=">mailto:email{at}from_Gary_Britt.org">email{at}from_Gary_Britt.org&g=
t;=20
  wrote in message  >  =20
  > > Why even use the indexing service? 
>  =
> If=20
  your files are all under My Documents, you probably don't need =
the =20
  > Indexing Service. Indexing is mostly useful for programmers or=20
  other  > hapless people who hoard thousands of
files, and =
have=20
  them in various  > folders. 
>  > =
> the=20
  indexing would slow down response time 
>  > =
Perhaps=20
  you are thinking of the old 'Find Fast' that was once part =
of  >=20
  Office. I have found that the Indexing Service is very well behaved,=20
  and  > has no perceptible impact on my work.
However, it =
does use=20
  a bunch ofdisk  > space (used 0.5GB
of the 16GB on my =
disk=20
  here).  >  > >
is there any potential =
benefit to=20
  using the indexing service? 
>  > It is only =
useful=20
  for searching files, and then only if your
application  > =
actually=20
  uses the Indexing Service. I don't think it indexes emails.  =
>=20
  However, the various desktop search tools allow searching emails --=20
  I  > think they use their own tricks. I have never =
investigated=20
  this because  > the occasional "Find"
in Outlook is all I =
need for=20
  emails.  >  > Office
has a built-in tool for =
searching=20
  files, and it will use the  > Indexing Service if it is =
enabled.=20
  However, because the Indexing Service  > lags
behind your =
current=20
  work (i.e. it might not index a file for an  >
hour), and =
because=20
  indexing only occurs on C: drive by default, Office  > =
also does a=20
  manual search which makes the result irritatingly =
slowerthan =20
  > what the Indexing Service can do. 
>  > =
The GUI=20
  of the Office and Explorer file search is about right for =
people =20
  > doing an occasional search, but I imagine that many power users=20
  wouldfar  > prefer the simpler style
of something like =
my=20
  Search program.  >  >
John =20
>

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