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to: TOM COLLINS
from: ROY WITT
date: 1997-07-28 19:57:00
subject: 396

27 Jul 97 17:42, Puleeeeze Brer Tom Collins, Dooooon't trow Re: 396 in dat 
der Briar Patch!
 TC>
 RW>> Now that statement jogged my memory a bit...Weren't the Chevy II
 RW>> motor mounts similar to the 55-62 Corvette?  It's been a long time
 RW>> since I've leaned over the fender of a Chevy II...
 TC>
 TC> Hmmmm....me too. But wouldn't that require bellhousing mounts at the
 TC> trans?
No. The Corvette with the mount bolted across the front of the engine had a 
three point mount.
 TC> Possibly, unless the fronts were mounted really wide, like the
 TC> Vette. I do remember some Chevy II's had front sump oil pans.
Yes, because of the suspension and the placement of the engine in the bay.
 TC> Anyway, the answer will be forthcoming soon, I suspect. The real
 TC> question was whether or not a 265 could be bored to 4 inches (making
 TC> it a 301).
Not likly.  283's were hard pressed to make it to a 4" bore.  That'd be an 
1/8" to bore out.  You'd need a perfectly cast block. I remember a lot of 
them going to 292, but hardly any 301's from 283's.  Some, but not many, and 
those weren't streetable due to the heat warping the thin cylinder walls.
 TC> And did the guy put the '55 engine in a 60's Chevy II? It's now
 TC> apparent that he possibly could. But was it a 265? If it has an oil
 TC> filter on the LR of the block it wasn't a 265, but must be a 283.
Uhhh, yes it could be a 265, 1956 or 1957 vintage.  If it's got an oil filter 
mount cast in the block, there's only one or two ways to tell.  A quicky 
would be to look at the cast date on the bellhousing, passenger side.  If you 
can decipher it (I can * ), you could tell what year the block was cast.  A 
number six would make it a 56 block, if it didn't have the now familiar motor 
mount bolt holes on the underside.
*Example: Casting code is A236,  January 23, 1956, 66, 76, 86, 96...
If it's a number seven and no motor mount holes underneath, its a toss up and 
you'll have to measure the bore, 3.75 for the 265, 3.875 for the 283. There's 
also a little known casting difference in the front of the block, but if 
memory serves, it just serves to distinguish 283's from 327's...
 TC>  I still say no, a 265 can't be bored to 4", due to the cylinder
 TC> wall thickness.
You'd be pretty near correct there.
 TC> Let's hear from the guy who did it, (I forget who that was.....) Oh
 TC> well, thanks guys for the discussion. I'm goin on vacation.... Tom
 TC> And I might even drive my: ... Four speed, dual quad, positraction,
 TC> 409.
Great, be looking for you on the boulevard.
... Tech Support is just a Busy Signal away...
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