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Reports of Vista problems are surfacing in the mainstream computer = press.
 Deny it if you wish or call it propaganda  but MS currently has = a public
relations problem regarding Vista.=20


http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,125213,00.asp

Vista Problems Might be Larger Than Microsoft Admits

  "Rich"  wrote in message news:4426b62f{at}w3....
     Getting behind on your propaganda?  Do you really think you become =
credible if you repost the writings of others?

  Rich

    "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:78bd22ltgn437e4eubkm2q9h5m8uvl7j33{at}4ax.com...

    http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html

    =3D=3D=3D
    Microsoft yesterday announced that it was reorganizing its Platforms =
&
    Services Division to better suit the company's burgeoning approach =
to
    its consumer products.=20

    "As we launch new Windows Live services and finalize Windows Vista,
    we're looking ahead to how we deliver the best possible experience =
for
    customers, now and into the future. Today we are enhancing the
    leadership team and structure across the division to ensure we have =
the
    right organization to support our technology vision," said Kevin
    Johnson, co-president of PSD.

    Microsoft's own press release details the changes, but here's what =
you
    need to know. First, it's highly unlikely that the delay announced =
on
    Tuesday is the primary cause for this reorganization. While it's
    tempting to bring the two together (and plenty of people are doing =
it),
    the reorganization's primary drive is elsewhere. Case in point: =
Steven
    Sinofsky will not only oversee the new Windows and Windows Live =
Group,
    but all groups in the Platforms & Services Division now report to =
him.
    He is now a senior vice president, and in years to come, he'll be =
the
    new Jim Allchin.=20

    This is part of a larger change at Microsoft, and it's an important =
one.
    As a brand, MSN appears to be losing steam; Microsoft's "Live" =
branding
    effort forgoes MSN entirely in favor of the Windows brand. Sinofsky
    essentially is sitting on top of those efforts, in charge of both
    Windows (including Internet Explorer) and the entire cadre of Live
    "experiences" coming out of Redmond, including Windows Live Search,
    Windows Live Mail, Windows Live Messenger. This is a significant =
change:
    it's the Windows brand that Microsoft is turning to in its battle =
with
    Google. When you think Microsoft search, they want to you think =
Windows,
    not MSN.=20

    Furthermore, Sinofsky isn't working on Windows Vista. That's still =
Jim
    Allchin's baby, and will be until it ships. Sinofsky and this
    reorganization are about Windows and Windows Live in a world where =
Vista
    has already shipped.

    Massive code rewite?

    Meanwhile, Smarthouse is reporting that 60 percent of the Windows =
Vista
    code has to be re-written. Reportedly, the Media Center code in the =
OS
    is in shambles, and needs to be saved by the Xbox code team. =
Curiosity
    piqued, I contacted my usual sources. In short, the story is an =
extreme
    exaggeration. I suppose this much is obvious from the mere fact that
    what was once a late November shipping date has now moved to January
    2007: would the revelation that more than half of the code is in =
need of
    repair only translate into a two month delay? Of course not. I =
suppose
    the cynic could still invest in this rumor by arguing that the delay
    will stretch into 2007, but that has yet to be seen, and it really
    amounts to FUD at this point.

    The real reason for the delay is a code problem, of course. =
Microsoft
    has admitted as such, citing security issues. My contacts are =
reticent
    to reveal additional details, other than to say that the problems
    apparently affect third parties, and are being taken seriously.
    =3D=3D=3D

      /m



    On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:05:13 +0000, Adam
    <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote:

    =
>http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Article=3D/Computing/Pl=
atforms/R7G5G6U4
    >
    >"Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new
    >Vista operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company =
"scrambles"
    >to fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to SHN.
    >
    >In an effort to meet a dealine of the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas
    >Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly succesful Xbox =
team to
    >help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and media
    >centre functionality inside the OS. The team are also working =
closely
    >with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and it is now expected =
that the
    >next version of Viiv could be delayed to line up with the launch of =
the
    >consumer version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in Las Vegas.
    >
    >One of the key components of the consumer version of Vista is the =
Media
    >Centre code. This will be an optional package in the same way that
    >Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home version of XP. =
With
    >Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre SKU.
    >
    >Microsoft has also admitted that it has major problems in it's  =
Windows
    >division and has has immediatly initiated a total restructure of =
the
    >division, a move that comes after a costly delay in rolling out its
    >Vista program."
    >
    >
    >Adam
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Vista Problems Might be Larger Than =
Microsoft=20
Admits
 

  "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4426b62f{at}w3....
     Getting
behind on your=20
  propaganda?  Do you really think you become credible if=20
  you repost the writings of others?
   
  Rich
   
  
    "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
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message news:78bd22ltgn4=
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    yesterday announced that it was reorganizing its Platforms =
&Services=20
    Division to better suit the company's burgeoning approach toits =
consumer=20
    products. "As we launch new Windows Live services and =
finalize=20
    Windows Vista,we're looking ahead to how we deliver the best =
possible=20
    experience forcustomers, now and into the future. Today we are =
enhancing=20
    theleadership team and structure across the division to ensure =
we have=20
    theright organization to support our technology vision," said=20
    KevinJohnson, co-president of
PSD.Microsoft's own press =
release=20
    details the changes, but here's what youneed to know. First, =
it's highly=20
    unlikely that the delay announced onTuesday is the primary cause =
for=20
    this reorganization. While it'stempting to bring the two =
together (and=20
    plenty of people are doing it),the reorganization's primary =
drive is=20
    elsewhere. Case in point: StevenSinofsky will not only oversee =
the new=20
    Windows and Windows Live Group,but all groups in the Platforms =
&=20
    Services Division now report to him.He is now a senior vice =
president,=20
    and in years to come, he'll be thenew Jim Allchin.
This =
is part=20
    of a larger change at Microsoft, and it's an important one.As a =
brand,=20
    MSN appears to be losing steam; Microsoft's "Live" =
brandingeffort=20
    forgoes MSN entirely in favor of the Windows brand. =
Sinofskyessentially=20
    is sitting on top of those efforts, in charge of bothWindows =
(including=20
    Internet Explorer) and the entire cadre of
Live"experiences" =
coming out=20
    of Redmond, including Windows Live Search,Windows Live Mail, =
Windows=20
    Live Messenger. This is a significant change:it's the Windows =
brand that=20
    Microsoft is turning to in its battle withGoogle. When you think =

    Microsoft search, they want to you think Windows,not MSN.=20
    Furthermore, Sinofsky isn't working on Windows
Vista. That's =
still=20
    JimAllchin's baby, and will be until it ships. Sinofsky and=20
    thisreorganization are about Windows and Windows Live in a world =
where=20
    Vistahas already shipped.Massive code =
rewite?Meanwhile,=20
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has to=20
    be re-written. Reportedly, the Media Center code in the OSis in=20
    shambles, and needs to be saved by the Xbox code team. =
Curiositypiqued,=20
    I contacted my usual sources. In short, the story is an=20
    extremeexaggeration. I suppose this much is obvious from the =
mere fact=20
    thatwhat was once a late November shipping date has now moved to =

    January2007: would the revelation that more than half of the =
code is in=20
    need ofrepair only translate into a two month delay? Of course =
not. I=20
    supposethe cynic could still invest in this rumor by arguing =
that the=20
    delaywill stretch into 2007, but that has yet to be seen, and it =

    reallyamounts to FUD at this point.The
real reason for =
the delay=20
    is a code problem, of course. Microsofthas admitted as such, =
citing=20
    security issues. My contacts are reticentto reveal additional =
details,=20
    other than to say that the problemsapparently affect third =
parties, and=20
    are being taken seriously.=3D=3D=3D  =
/mOn Fri, 24=20
    Mar 2006 19:05:13 +0000, Adam<""4thwormcastfromthemole=">mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"{at}the=20
    field.near the bridge">=20
    =
wrote:>http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Articl=
e=3D/Computing/Platforms/R7G5G6U4>>"Up=20
    to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft =
new>Vista=20
    operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company =
"scrambles">to=20
    fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to=20
    SHN.>>In an effort to meet a dealine
of the 2007 CES =
show in=20
    Las Vegas>Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly =
succesful=20
    Xbox team to>help resolve many problems associated with =
entertainment=20
    and media>centre functionality inside the OS. The team are =
also=20
    working closely>with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and =
it is=20
    now expected that the>next version of Viiv could be delayed =
to line=20
    up with the launch of the>consumer version of Vista at the =
2007 CES=20
    Show in Las Vegas.>>One of the key
components of the =
consumer=20
    version of Vista is the Media>Centre code. This will be an =
optional=20
    package in the same way that>Microsoft currently sell a =
Professional=20
    and Home version of XP. With>Vista there will not be a =
seperate Media=20
    Centre SKU.>>Microsoft has also
admitted that it has =
major=20
    problems in it's  Windows>division and has has =
immediatly=20
    initiated a total restructure of the>division, a move that =
comes=20
    after a costly delay in rolling out its>Vista=20
    =
program.">>>Adam

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