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echo: matzdobre
to: Ed Hulett
from: Ross Sauer
date: 2009-12-02 12:35:38
subject: POLICE OFFICERS SHOT...

"Ed Hulett -> Ross Sauer"  wrote in
news:19556$MATZDOBRE{at}JamNNTPd:

 RS>>>> Tim McVeigh was like that also.
 RS>>>> And the state obliged him.
 RS>>>> And now, he's a "hero" and "martyr"
to the groups who fight
 EH>>>   against the RS> "Zionist Occupational
Government." (The Jews,
 EH>   doncha EH>>   know...)

 EH>>> That is absolute hogwash. If they want to be martyrs so be it.

 RS>> You don't realize how radicals work.

 EH> Yes I do.

 RS>> By having a martyr, the image of the martyr makes a dandy
 EH>   recruiting RS> tool.

 EH> Big deal. Not many murderers have followers who use their deaths to
 EH> recruit.

Depends on the motive a radical has, and how much publicity they get.

For example, in Ohio a guy is under investigation, he's in the hospital
after one of his home-made pipe bombs blew up in his face.
He's an anti-government radical, he used to be an MD until he lost his
license due to his stealing and abusing precription drugs.
He'll have few, very few, if any, followers.

But Osama bin Laden?
Followers up the Yin-Yang.

 RS>> But how many recruits has the first WTC bombers inspired?

 EH> Thousands. They inspired KSM to mastermind a more devastating attack.
 EH> Remember Sept. 11, 2001? Sure you do, you celebrated the death of one
 EH> of the victims the next day.

The actual connections between the first WTC bombers and 9-11 terrorists
is very tenuous, at best.
At most, the only things they have in common is they are/were all Muslim
radicals.
That's all.

Even Al-Queda has many different factions, some more than willing to
kill other factions.

 RS>>>> My main objection against the death penalty is the fact
 EH>>>   literally
 EH>>> dozens of
 RS>>>> people who were on death row have been released, due to new
 EH>>>   evidence.

 EH>>> Apparently the appeals process works.

 RS>> Does it?

 EH> Yes, it does.

 RS>> In Texas, a guy was put to death for the arson deaths of his two
 EH>   kids. RS> He went to the gurney protesting his innocence, and
 EH>   current reviews of RS> the investigations showed serious flaws
 EH>   including a jailhouse snitch who RS> had a LONG record that included
 EH>   perjury, and a fire investigator who RS> bragged about how he
"never
 EH>   made mistakes."

 EH> Is that so?

 RS>> The jury was also shown one of the defendant's albums, and the
 RS>> prosecutor said it was proof of the defendant's "Satanic"
 EH>   tendencies. RS> An Iron Maiden album.

 EH> Where do you read this stuff?

The news.

 RS>> Oh, "It's just one guy..."
 RS>> One guy, who it looks like he was murdered by the state of
 EH>   Texas. RS> One guy, who I guess doesn't count?

 EH> Yet you have no real proof that is the case.

There was no "proof beyond a reasonable doubt," in this case, but the
guy was executed anyway.

By the way, this year an investigation into these dscrepancies was under
way, but Texas' Governor Goodhair closed down that investgation and will
not release the findings.
This stinks of cover-up.

One thing that also bugs me about the eath penalty, when was the last
time anyone rich and/or famous, got sent to Death Row?

Even OJ Simpson, before he went to trial the first time, he was accused
of slicing up two people, brutally.
Yet the asshole prosecutor said before the trial started, he wouldn't be
trying to get the death penalty for OJ.

This same prsecutor has sent people to death row, gang members who
killed other gang members over drug deals.

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