Hello Robert!

03 Oct 17 15:51, you wrote to me:

 RB> Kees van Eeten wrote to alexander koryagin on Monday October 02 2017 at
 RB> 09:51:

 RB> For many years I've had a running argument with Michiel van der Vlist
 RB> about this. Apparently neither he nor you are aware of the fact that the
 RB> colloquial English name for "Het Koninkrijk der Nederlanden" is and
 RB> remains "Holland".

 Michiel is more strict in his use of language than I am. For me you can skip
 the "Het Koninkrijk der" and replace it with "The".

 We really make a point of it, when it is about good or bad. Living in Holland
 I prefer "The Netherlands" when it is about something bad. It dilutes the
 feeling. Michael lives outside Holland, so his motives may be different. ;)

 Usually it is quicker to use Holland an Ajax and Kruijff to explain where
 you come from. And it is not always in that order.

 RB> Germany is also referred to as "Germany" and not as
 RB> "Deutschland" in English.

 It is always Duitsland from here. We did talk about the DDR, but never the
 BRD.

 RB> This is something for the purists, of which I am not one. I also
 RB> object to
 RB> some people's habit of referring to Americans (USA) as "USAians", a term
 RB> that is not only not in common use, but ignores current and past use and
 RB> is even insulting to _South_ American countries who take greeat pride in
 RB> their history.

 I have seen the discussions and I also know who fire them, as response is
 always given. ;)

 RB> But suit yourself. Everybody has a hangup.

 A bad translation of hangup to Dutch would be "hangop". That is a cottage
 cheese like product, which you make by putting yogurt or buttermilk in
 a discloth streched over a cooking pot. You eat what stays in the cloth,
 not the moisture that leaks through.

 Not my piece of cake.

Kees

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