MS>  MS>    College teaching comes with unique discipline problems that 
MS> ES 
MS>  MS>teachers do not face.  Have you ever had half your 9:00 A.M. 
MS> class come
MS>  MS>in drunk? (It's common in colleges.) 
MS> 
MS> I don't know where you went to school, but I have been teaching at 
MS> the  
MS> college level for over 30 years, and I  have never seen a drunk 
MS> student in 
MS> class.  Ever.
    This was going on at both of the two small private colleges my father 
taught at.  (I also took courses at one while in HS and went to the other 
before transferring out, and I thus personally saw it as well as hearing 
about it from him.)    He hadn't seen anything like it when teaching at state 
universities for 20+ years either, so it seemed to be related to the kids at 
the private colleges having more money to spend on booze and dope.  Students 
openly talked at those private colleges about how much they planned to dring 
in a weekend.
MS> We flunk lots of physics students.  We never get complaints from  
MS> administrators.
    Do you teach in a small private college, where a drop in enrollment of 
100 students will bankrupt the college?  If you teach at a large state 
school, this isn't an issue.
MS> the 
MS> college  level, nobody is forced to be in school at all unless they 
MS> want to
    Many students are pushed into college, even though they'd be better off 
going to community colleges, by parents seeking prestige.  
MS> large 
MS> classes of kids  with very diverse abilities and achievement levels.  
    Just like most college profs face!
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