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   Getting behind on your propaganda?  Do you really think you become =
credible if you repost the writings of others?

Rich

  "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:78bd22ltgn437e4eubkm2q9h5m8uvl7j33{at}4ax.com...

  http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html

  =3D=3D=3D
  Microsoft yesterday announced that it was reorganizing its Platforms &
  Services Division to better suit the company's burgeoning approach to
  its consumer products.=20

  "As we launch new Windows Live services and finalize Windows Vista,
  we're looking ahead to how we deliver the best possible experience for
  customers, now and into the future. Today we are enhancing the
  leadership team and structure across the division to ensure we have =
the
  right organization to support our technology vision," said Kevin
  Johnson, co-president of PSD.

  Microsoft's own press release details the changes, but here's what you
  need to know. First, it's highly unlikely that the delay announced on
  Tuesday is the primary cause for this reorganization. While it's
  tempting to bring the two together (and plenty of people are doing =
it),
  the reorganization's primary drive is elsewhere. Case in point: Steven
  Sinofsky will not only oversee the new Windows and Windows Live Group,
  but all groups in the Platforms & Services Division now report to him.
  He is now a senior vice president, and in years to come, he'll be the
  new Jim Allchin.=20

  This is part of a larger change at Microsoft, and it's an important =
one.
  As a brand, MSN appears to be losing steam; Microsoft's "Live" =
branding
  effort forgoes MSN entirely in favor of the Windows brand. Sinofsky
  essentially is sitting on top of those efforts, in charge of both
  Windows (including Internet Explorer) and the entire cadre of Live
  "experiences" coming out of Redmond, including Windows Live Search,
  Windows Live Mail, Windows Live Messenger. This is a significant =
change:
  it's the Windows brand that Microsoft is turning to in its battle with
  Google. When you think Microsoft search, they want to you think =
Windows,
  not MSN.=20

  Furthermore, Sinofsky isn't working on Windows Vista. That's still Jim
  Allchin's baby, and will be until it ships. Sinofsky and this
  reorganization are about Windows and Windows Live in a world where =
Vista
  has already shipped.

  Massive code rewite?

  Meanwhile, Smarthouse is reporting that 60 percent of the Windows =
Vista
  code has to be re-written. Reportedly, the Media Center code in the OS
  is in shambles, and needs to be saved by the Xbox code team. Curiosity
  piqued, I contacted my usual sources. In short, the story is an =
extreme
  exaggeration. I suppose this much is obvious from the mere fact that
  what was once a late November shipping date has now moved to January
  2007: would the revelation that more than half of the code is in need =
of
  repair only translate into a two month delay? Of course not. I suppose
  the cynic could still invest in this rumor by arguing that the delay
  will stretch into 2007, but that has yet to be seen, and it really
  amounts to FUD at this point.

  The real reason for the delay is a code problem, of course. Microsoft
  has admitted as such, citing security issues. My contacts are reticent
  to reveal additional details, other than to say that the problems
  apparently affect third parties, and are being taken seriously.
  =3D=3D=3D

    /m



  On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:05:13 +0000, Adam
  <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote:

  =
>http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Article=3D/Computing/Pl=
atforms/R7G5G6U4
  >
  >"Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft new
  >Vista operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company =
"scrambles"
  >to fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to SHN.
  >
  >In an effort to meet a dealine of the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas
  >Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly succesful Xbox team =
to
  >help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and media
  >centre functionality inside the OS. The team are also working closely
  >with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and it is now expected that =
the
  >next version of Viiv could be delayed to line up with the launch of =
the
  >consumer version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in Las Vegas.
  >
  >One of the key components of the consumer version of Vista is the =
Media
  >Centre code. This will be an optional package in the same way that
  >Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home version of XP. With
  >Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre SKU.
  >
  >Microsoft has also admitted that it has major problems in it's  =
Windows
  >division and has has immediatly initiated a total restructure of the
  >division, a move that comes after a costly delay in rolling out its
  >Vista program."
  >
  >
  >Adam
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   Getting
behind on your=20
propaganda?  Do you really think you become credible if=20
you repost the writings of
others?
 
Rich
 

  "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>=20">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>=20
  wrote in message news:78bd22ltgn4=
37e4eubkm2q9h5m8uvl7j33{at}4ax.com...http://a" target="new">http://a=">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html">http://a=
rstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html=3D=3D=3DM=
icrosoft=20
  yesterday announced that it was reorganizing its Platforms =
&Services=20
  Division to better suit the company's burgeoning approach toits =
consumer=20
  products. "As we launch new Windows Live
services and finalize =
Windows=20
  Vista,we're looking ahead to how we deliver the best possible =
experience=20
  forcustomers, now and into the future. Today we are enhancing=20
  theleadership team and structure across the division to ensure we =
have=20
  theright organization to support our technology vision," said=20
  KevinJohnson, co-president of
PSD.Microsoft's own press =
release=20
  details the changes, but here's what youneed to know. First, it's =
highly=20
  unlikely that the delay announced onTuesday is the primary cause =
for this=20
  reorganization. While it'stempting to bring the two together (and =
plenty=20
  of people are doing it),the reorganization's primary drive is =
elsewhere.=20
  Case in point: StevenSinofsky will not only oversee the new =
Windows and=20
  Windows Live Group,but all groups in the Platforms & Services =
Division=20
  now report to him.He is now a senior vice president, and in years =
to come,=20
  he'll be thenew Jim Allchin. This is part
of a larger =
change at=20
  Microsoft, and it's an important one.As a brand, MSN appears to be =
losing=20
  steam; Microsoft's "Live" brandingeffort forgoes MSN
entirely in =
favor of=20
  the Windows brand. Sinofskyessentially is sitting on top of those =
efforts,=20
  in charge of bothWindows (including Internet Explorer) and the =
entire=20
  cadre of Live"experiences" coming out of Redmond, including =
Windows Live=20
  Search,Windows Live Mail, Windows Live Messenger. This is a =
significant=20
  change:it's the Windows brand that Microsoft is turning to in its =
battle=20
  withGoogle. When you think Microsoft search, they want to you =
think=20
  Windows,not MSN. Furthermore, Sinofsky
isn't working on =
Windows=20
  Vista. That's still JimAllchin's baby, and will be until it ships. =

  Sinofsky and thisreorganization are about Windows and Windows Live =
in a=20
  world where Vistahas already shipped.Massive code=20
  rewite?Meanwhile, Smarthouse is reporting that 60 percent of =
the=20
  Windows Vistacode has to be re-written. Reportedly, the Media =
Center code=20
  in the OSis in shambles, and needs to be saved by the Xbox code =
team.=20
  Curiositypiqued, I contacted my usual sources. In short, the story =
is an=20
  extremeexaggeration. I suppose this much is obvious from the mere =
fact=20
  thatwhat was once a late November shipping date has now moved to=20
  January2007: would the revelation that more than half of the code =
is in=20
  need ofrepair only translate into a two month delay? Of course =
not. I=20
  supposethe cynic could still invest in this rumor by arguing that =
the=20
  delaywill stretch into 2007, but that has yet to be seen, and it=20
  reallyamounts to FUD at this point.The real
reason for the =
delay=20
  is a code problem, of course. Microsofthas admitted as such, =
citing=20
  security issues. My contacts are reticentto reveal additional =
details,=20
  other than to say that the problemsapparently affect third =
parties, and=20
  are being taken seriously.=3D=3D=3D  =
/mOn Fri, 24=20
  Mar 2006 19:05:13 +0000, Adam<""4thwormcastfromthemole=">mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"{at}the=20
  field.near the bridge">=20
  =
wrote:>http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Articl=
e=3D/Computing/Platforms/R7G5G6U4>>"Up=20
  to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft =
new>Vista=20
  operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company =
"scrambles">to=20
  fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to=20
  SHN.>>In an effort to meet a dealine of
the 2007 CES =
show in Las=20
  Vegas>Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly =
succesful Xbox=20
  team to>help resolve many problems associated with =
entertainment and=20
  media>centre functionality inside the OS. The team are also =
working=20
  closely>with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and it is now =
expected=20
  that the>next version of Viiv could be delayed to line up with =
the=20
  launch of the>consumer version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in =
Las=20
  Vegas.>>One of the key components of
the consumer =
version of=20
  Vista is the Media>Centre code. This will be an optional =
package in the=20
  same way that>Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home =
version=20
  of XP. With>Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre=20
  SKU.>>Microsoft has also admitted that
it has major =
problems in=20
  it's  Windows>division and has has immediatly
initiated a =
total=20
  restructure of the>division, a move that comes after a costly =
delay in=20
  rolling out its>Vista=20
program.">>>Adam

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