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   Of course.  So are reports of paris hilton's love life.  People love =
to gossip.  It's been going on forever.  If not writing about Windows =
Vista they are writing about Windows XP.  Before that they gossiped = about
Windows 2000 and Windows NT and Windows 98 and Windows 95 etc.  I = don't
expect it to fade until there is something new to take its place.

Rich

  "Rich Gauszka"  wrote in message =
news:4426c010{at}w3....
  Reports of Vista problems are surfacing in the mainstream computer =
press.  Deny it if you wish or call it propaganda  but MS currently has = a
public relations problem regarding Vista.=20


  http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,125213,00.asp

  Vista Problems Might be Larger Than Microsoft Admits

    "Rich"  wrote in message news:4426b62f{at}w3....
       Getting behind on your propaganda?  Do you really think you =
become credible if you repost the writings of others?

    Rich

      "Mike '/m'"  wrote in message =
news:78bd22ltgn437e4eubkm2q9h5m8uvl7j33{at}4ax.com...

      http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html

      =3D=3D=3D
      Microsoft yesterday announced that it was reorganizing its =
Platforms &
      Services Division to better suit the company's burgeoning approach =
to
      its consumer products.=20

      "As we launch new Windows Live services and finalize Windows =
Vista,
      we're looking ahead to how we deliver the best possible experience =
for
      customers, now and into the future. Today we are enhancing the
      leadership team and structure across the division to ensure we =
have the
      right organization to support our technology vision," said Kevin
      Johnson, co-president of PSD.

      Microsoft's own press release details the changes, but here's what =
you
      need to know. First, it's highly unlikely that the delay announced =
on
      Tuesday is the primary cause for this reorganization. While it's
      tempting to bring the two together (and plenty of people are doing =
it),
      the reorganization's primary drive is elsewhere. Case in point: =
Steven
      Sinofsky will not only oversee the new Windows and Windows Live =
Group,
      but all groups in the Platforms & Services Division now report to =
him.
      He is now a senior vice president, and in years to come, he'll be =
the
      new Jim Allchin.=20

      This is part of a larger change at Microsoft, and it's an =
important one.
      As a brand, MSN appears to be losing steam; Microsoft's "Live" =
branding
      effort forgoes MSN entirely in favor of the Windows brand. =
Sinofsky
      essentially is sitting on top of those efforts, in charge of both
      Windows (including Internet Explorer) and the entire cadre of Live
      "experiences" coming out of Redmond, including Windows Live =
Search,
      Windows Live Mail, Windows Live Messenger. This is a significant =
change:
      it's the Windows brand that Microsoft is turning to in its battle =
with
      Google. When you think Microsoft search, they want to you think =
Windows,
      not MSN.=20

      Furthermore, Sinofsky isn't working on Windows Vista. That's still =
Jim
      Allchin's baby, and will be until it ships. Sinofsky and this
      reorganization are about Windows and Windows Live in a world where =
Vista
      has already shipped.

      Massive code rewite?

      Meanwhile, Smarthouse is reporting that 60 percent of the Windows =
Vista
      code has to be re-written. Reportedly, the Media Center code in =
the OS
      is in shambles, and needs to be saved by the Xbox code team. =
Curiosity
      piqued, I contacted my usual sources. In short, the story is an =
extreme
      exaggeration. I suppose this much is obvious from the mere fact =
that
      what was once a late November shipping date has now moved to =
January
      2007: would the revelation that more than half of the code is in =
need of
      repair only translate into a two month delay? Of course not. I =
suppose
      the cynic could still invest in this rumor by arguing that the =
delay
      will stretch into 2007, but that has yet to be seen, and it really
      amounts to FUD at this point.

      The real reason for the delay is a code problem, of course. =
Microsoft
      has admitted as such, citing security issues. My contacts are =
reticent
      to reveal additional details, other than to say that the problems
      apparently affect third parties, and are being taken seriously.
      =3D=3D=3D

        /m



      On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:05:13 +0000, Adam
      <""4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the field.near the
bridge"> wrote:

      =
>http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Article=3D/Computing/Pl=
atforms/R7G5G6U4
      >
      >"Up to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft =
new
      >Vista operating system is set to be rewritten as the Company =
"scrambles"
      >to fix internal problems a Microsoft insider has confirmed to =
SHN.
      >
      >In an effort to meet a dealine of the 2007 CES show in Las Vegas
      >Microsoft has pulled programmers from the highly succesful Xbox =
team to
      >help resolve many problems associated with entertainment and =
media
      >centre functionality inside the OS. The team are also working =
closely
      >with engineers from the Intel Viiv team. and it is now expected =
that the
      >next version of Viiv could be delayed to line up with the launch =
of the
      >consumer version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in Las Vegas.
      >
      >One of the key components of the consumer version of Vista is the =
Media
      >Centre code. This will be an optional package in the same way =
that
      >Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home version of XP. =
With
      >Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre SKU.
      >
      >Microsoft has also admitted that it has major problems in it's  =
Windows
      >division and has has immediatly initiated a total restructure of =
the
      >division, a move that comes after a costly delay in rolling out =
its
      >Vista program."
      >
      >
      >Adam
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   Of
course.  So are =
reports of=20
paris hilton's love life.  People love to gossip.  It's
been = going on=20
forever.  If not writing about Windows Vista they are writing
about = Windows=20
XP.  Before that they gossiped about Windows 2000 and Windows NT = and=20
Windows 98 and Windows 95 etc.  I don't expect it to fade until =
there is=20
something new to take its place.
 
Rich
 

  "Rich Gauszka" <gauszka{at}hotmail.com>">mailto:gauszka{at}hotmail.com">gauszka{at}hotmail.com>
wrote =
in message=20
  news:4426c010{at}w3....
  Reports of Vista problems are =
surfacing in the=20
  mainstream computer press.  Deny it if you wish or call it =
propaganda=20
   but MS currently has a public relations problem regarding =
Vista.=20
  
   
   
  http://w" target="new">http://w=">http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,125213,00.asp">http://w=
ww.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,125213,00.asp
   
  
  Vista Problems Might be Larger Than =
Microsoft=20
  Admits
   
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:4426b62f{at}w3....
      
Getting behind on your =

    propaganda?  Do you really think you become credible if=20
    you repost the writings of others?
     
    Rich
     
    
      "Mike '/m'" <mike{at}barkto.com>">mailto:mike{at}barkto.com">mike{at}barkto.com>
wrote in =
message news:78bd22ltgn4=
37e4eubkm2q9h5m8uvl7j33{at}4ax.com...http://a" target="new">http://a=">http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html">http://a=
rstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060324-6453.html=3D=3D=3DM=
icrosoft=20
      yesterday announced that it was reorganizing its Platforms=20
      &Services Division to better suit the company's burgeoning =

      approach toits consumer products.
"As we launch new =
Windows=20
      Live services and finalize Windows Vista,we're looking ahead =
to how we=20
      deliver the best possible experience forcustomers, now and =
into the=20
      future. Today we are enhancing theleadership team and =
structure across=20
      the division to ensure we have theright organization to =
support our=20
      technology vision," said KevinJohnson, co-president of=20
      PSD.Microsoft's own press release details the
changes, but =
here's=20
      what youneed to know. First, it's highly unlikely that the =
delay=20
      announced onTuesday is the primary cause for this =
reorganization.=20
      While it'stempting to bring the two together (and plenty of =
people are=20
      doing it),the reorganization's primary drive is elsewhere. =
Case in=20
      point: StevenSinofsky will not only oversee the new Windows =
and=20
      Windows Live Group,but all groups in the Platforms & =
Services=20
      Division now report to him.He is now a senior vice president, =
and in=20
      years to come, he'll be thenew Jim Allchin.
This is =
part of a=20
      larger change at Microsoft, and it's an important one.As a =
brand, MSN=20
      appears to be losing steam; Microsoft's "Live"
brandingeffort =
forgoes=20
      MSN entirely in favor of the Windows brand. =
Sinofskyessentially is=20
      sitting on top of those efforts, in charge of bothWindows =
(including=20
      Internet Explorer) and the entire cadre of
Live"experiences" =
coming=20
      out of Redmond, including Windows Live Search,Windows Live =
Mail,=20
      Windows Live Messenger. This is a significant change:it's the =
Windows=20
      brand that Microsoft is turning to in its battle withGoogle. =
When you=20
      think Microsoft search, they want to you think Windows,not =
MSN.=20
      Furthermore, Sinofsky isn't working on Windows Vista. =
That's still=20
      JimAllchin's baby, and will be until it ships. Sinofsky and=20
      thisreorganization are about Windows and Windows Live in a =
world where=20
      Vistahas already shipped.Massive code=20
      rewite?Meanwhile, Smarthouse is reporting that 60 percent =
of the=20
      Windows Vistacode has to be re-written. Reportedly, the Media =
Center=20
      code in the OSis in shambles, and needs to be saved by the =
Xbox code=20
      team. Curiositypiqued, I contacted my usual sources. In short, =
the=20
      story is an extremeexaggeration. I suppose this much is =
obvious from=20
      the mere fact thatwhat was once a late November shipping date =
has now=20
      moved to January2007: would the revelation that more than half =
of the=20
      code is in need ofrepair only translate into a two month =
delay? Of=20
      course not. I supposethe cynic could still invest in this =
rumor by=20
      arguing that the delaywill stretch into 2007, but that has yet =
to be=20
      seen, and it reallyamounts to FUD at this
point.The =
real=20
      reason for the delay is a code problem, of course. =
Microsofthas=20
      admitted as such, citing security issues. My contacts are =
reticentto=20
      reveal additional details, other than to say that the=20
      problemsapparently affect third parties, and are being taken=20
      seriously.=3D=3D=3D 
/mOn Fri, 24 =
Mar 2006=20
      19:05:13 +0000, Adam<""4thwormcastfromthemole=">mailto:"4thwormcastfromthemolehill\"{at}the'>"4thwormcastfromthemole=
hill\"{at}the=20
      field.near the bridge">=20
      =
wrote:>http://www.smarthouse.com.au/Computing/Platforms?Articl=
e=3D/Computing/Platforms/R7G5G6U4>>"Up=20
      to 60% of the code in the new consumer version of Microsoft=20
      new>Vista operating system is set to be rewritten as the =
Company=20
      "scrambles">to fix internal problems a
Microsoft insider =
has=20
      confirmed to SHN.>>In an effort to
meet a dealine of =
the=20
      2007 CES show in Las Vegas>Microsoft has pulled programmers =
from=20
      the highly succesful Xbox team to>help resolve many =
problems=20
      associated with entertainment and media>centre =
functionality inside=20
      the OS. The team are also working closely>with engineers =
from the=20
      Intel Viiv team. and it is now expected that the>next =
version of=20
      Viiv could be delayed to line up with the launch of =
the>consumer=20
      version of Vista at the 2007 CES Show in Las =
Vegas.>>One of=20
      the key components of the consumer version of Vista is the=20
      Media>Centre code. This will be an optional package in the =
same way=20
      that>Microsoft currently sell a Professional and Home =
version of=20
      XP. With>Vista there will not be a seperate Media Centre=20
      SKU.>>Microsoft has also admitted
that it has major =
problems=20
      in it's  Windows>division and has has immediatly =
initiated a=20
      total restructure of the>division, a move that comes after =
a costly=20
      delay in rolling out its>Vista=20
    =
program.">>>Adam

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