On Sat Feb-12-2011 17:19, mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote to Roger Nelson:

 RN> P4 was never ratified by the grunt SysOps, but there are those who
 RN> have a different view about it.

 ml> i still fail to understand this... yes, in some areas, the defined
 ml> and published methodology was not fully followed but that still
 ml> doesn't negate the fact that P4 was put to the populace for
 ml> voting... *I* cast a vote for our node in that process... at the
 ml> time, i was in Va Beach, VA and a member of the net that carolS is
 ml> now in... our NC, at the time, presented, as per the published
 ml> rules, P4 and accepted votes from each node as yea or nay whether
 ml> to ratify P4 or not... IIRC, every one of the nodes in our net cast
 ml> a vote and that vote was tallied... the majority count of that vote
 ml> was forwarded to the RC as the net's vote... the other nets in that
 ml> region also cast their net's vote with the RC who tallied them and
 ml> forwarded that on to the Z1C as that region's vote... 

 ml> yes, in some cases, the net votes cast by the NCs were supposedly
 ml> 'contrary' to the actual votes cast but this was never proven...
 ml> the same thing is said about the regional votes and that, too, was
 ml> never proven...

 ml> yes, in some cases, NCs may have been away or for some other reason
 ml> never polled their net for their nodes' votes... the same for some
 ml> regions... but it still remains that the yea votes outnumbered the
 ml> nay votes in the final count at the top and so P4 was put in
 ml> place...

I stand by what I said.  The other thing I wrote about P4, which I had
thrown in my face recently, was that there are some good things in it. 
That said, I will brook no further argument.

Nice to have you back here, mark.


Regards,

Roger 
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