From: "Rich" 

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   Use the Administrator account and you don't get prompted to elevate.  =
You always run elevated.  For this reason it is unsafe.  What UAC (or =
UAP?) does is aleviate some of the problems with all the crappy =
applications that don't work for normal users.  Anyone that runs as a =
normal user today, or could and should, should continue to run as a =
limited user on Windows Vista.

   Even with firefox's installer's issues, it is not a big deal no =
matter how much mike miller would like to play up something he has never =
used or seen.  The elevation is only needed to perform tasks that = require
an administrator.  These simply are not common.

Rich

  "Geo"  wrote in message news:444be29c$1{at}w3....
  Thanks but I've got IE and no desire to put firefox (another security =
hole like that) on my machine. I like IE wrapper/lock  type addons like =
crazybrowser or maxthon.

  Perhaps a good suggestion to the vista team would be to turn off all =
the newbie popup questions and such for the administrative user. One of =
my big complaints with XP was that there was no "stop with the second
= guessing me and assuming you know what I want, I'm an experienced
user" = setting.

  Another suggestion would be for a "I don't want to learn windows =
again, make it act and look like W2K" switch.

  Geo.
    "Rich"  wrote in message news:444aebd3{at}w3....
       It can't.  In the scenario described here, the app was installed =
as an administrator.  firefox might not even install except as an admin. =
 Give a try and let us all know.

    Rich


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   Use the
Administrator =
account and you=20
don't get prompted to elevate.  You always run elevated. 
For = this=20
reason it is unsafe.  What UAC (or UAP?) does is aleviate some of = the=20
problems with all the crappy applications that don't work for normal=20
users.  Anyone that runs as a normal user today, or could and =
should,=20
should continue to run as a limited user on Windows Vista.
 
   Even with
firefox's =
installer's=20
issues, it is not a big deal no matter how much mike miller would
= like to=20
play up something he has never used or seen.  The elevation is
only = needed=20
to perform tasks that require an administrator.  These simply are = not=20
common.
 
Rich
 

  "Geo" <georger{at}nls.net>">mailto:georger{at}nls.net">georger{at}nls.net>
wrote=20
  in message news:444be29c$1{at}w3....
  Thanks but I've got IE and no desire =
to put=20
  firefox (another security hole like that) on my machine. I like IE=20
  wrapper/lock  type addons like crazybrowser or =
maxthon.
   
  Perhaps a good suggestion to the =
vista team would=20
  be to turn off all the newbie popup questions and such for the =
administrative=20
  user. One of my big complaints with XP was that there was no "stop =
with the=20
  second guessing me and assuming you know what I want, I'm an =
experienced user"=20
  setting.
   
  Another suggestion would be
for a "I =
don't want=20
  to learn windows again, make it act and look like W2K"=20
  switch.
   
  Geo.
  

    "Rich" <{at}> wrote in message news:444aebd3{at}w3....
       It
can't.  In the =
scenario=20
    described here, the app was installed as an administrator.  =
firefox=20
    might not even install except as an admin.  Give a try and let =
us all=20
    know.
     
    Rich
     
     

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