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echo: educator
to: DALE HILL
from: MATT SMITH
date: 1996-07-14 16:43:00
subject: Re: Discipline

DH> MS>     Given that the vast majority of HS seniors (particularly in 
DH> "col
DH> MS> courses) graduate, is it reasonable to expect them to magically 
DH> beco
DH> MS> responsible the moment they get the HS degree?
DH>  
DH> My personal feelings are that I place that expectation to act 
DH> responsibly a heck of a lot earlier in life than at the 17 or 18 yr 
DH> point.  
    HS environments sure don't show it when they're run with such a high 
degree of regimentation.  
    If 17-year-olds were so "responsible", HSs wouldn't be so regimented but 
would be run as the free environment (no study halls, 
come-to-class-if-you-want) that colleges are.
DH> should we have greater expectations for those moving from HS to 
DH> college.  
    Maybe you're right, but the expectations are just _unrealistic_.
    Ask a campus-police officer what proportion of the serious problems (like 
assault and rape) he deals with involve severe intoxication.
DH> This expectation of increased responsible behavior is no different 
DH> than 
DH> what I expect of my college students.  I teach Air Force ROTC,
    ROTC _is_ a very regimented environment.
    Do USAFROTC cadets get to come to your classes when and if they feel like 
it, like their classmates do in math class?
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