Retoric...!?!?!?!?....Thats funny....Hmmm....Well let's ask those of us who 
have been collecting overseas for astart ...I believe Sam Mcdaniel has on 
several occassions ..I have once the numbers I gave were probably lighter 
than what I saw ...As for book documentation there are very few books out 
there about collecting at all ..There was a nice documentary on the 
rainforest a few years back that showed some natives collecting 
neons......Any how if you will drop your bogus flameing language i will be 
glad to see if i can find some documents...Claiming I am full of retoric does 
nothing to endear you to me ....
--- Maximus/2 3.01
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