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to: NELGIN
from: DIGITAL MAN
date: 2020-08-26 12:45:00
subject: Re: GitHub

  Re: Re: GitHub
  By: Nelgin to Tony Langdon on Wed Aug 26 2020 11:45 am

 > > True, and you don't with Git, you can download a .zip off the web
 > > interface at
 > > Github.  But that said, it's actually less fiddly to run a git clone if
 > > you have git installed. :)
 >
 > But you still end up overwriting anything you changed whether you get the
 > latest zip or whether you pull the latest direct from git.

The sbbs_dev.zip (or .tgz for Linux-x64 sysops like yourself) contains *no*
files that you might have changed. Download and update using that.

 > I totally agree that versioning systems are not meant for software
 > distribution. Many sysops can barely scape by with Linux and CVS without
 > throwing in the added complication of git. I feel this is going to force
 > those on the fence about giving up their BBS to go away, or may push others
 > to not bother installing updates any more. I'm likely to be in that crowd. I
 > don't have a lot of time to dedicate to my BBS right now as it is, without
 > having to jump through hoops to update it.

Download a .tgz. Extract. No hoops.

 > While I can understand this is useful for DM and other developers, I can
 > only see this hurting sbbs in the end because cvs just works, and now it
 > doesn't

CVS doesn't do some magic thing that you as a sysop needed. If you just want to
update to the latest executables and scripts, download 2 files and extract into
your exec dir:
http://vert.synchro.net/sbbs/sbbs_dev.tgz
http://vert.synchro.net/sbbs/sbbsexec.tgz

I think you're making this out to be more complicated than it is.

 > and sysops are going to be forced to make changes they don't want or don't
 > need. I'm all for progress, but this seems like a regresion to me.
 >
 > This, of course, is MHO and I'll probably just be accused of whining over
 > nothing. We'll see...

Yeah, I'm not sure what're trying to convey. You liked CVS and we're no longer
using it. You don't *have* to use Git to stay up-to-date. You didn't have to
use CVS for that either.

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