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echo: philos
to: JOHN BOONE
from: DAVID MARTORANA
date: 1997-12-27 21:32:00
subject: Styles of Thought

 ++> From an on going-ish exchange between John Boone,
 ++> Frank Masingill and David Martorana
 ++> on "Styles of thought"
 
        Hello John, ..... and many thanks for listening !
 
 DM>> FM>> My aim is only to show how shallow the fixing of labels
 DM>> FM>> is in a philosophical debate.  Surely we are
 DM>> FM>> reaching for something of more intellectual and practical
 
 DM>> Complete systems, however bent in accuracy or value, require that all
 DM>> the players be labeled. Such thinking has to round off any "grays" so
 DM>> that identifications of the WHOs with, and WHOs against, can be
 DM>> painted clear.  It is a thinking (often seen on this echo) that
 DM>> is absolutely
 
 JB> How can you "lump" -all- "such thinking" into "rounding off" any
 JB> grays....?
 
     When "YOU" lump individuals into "TERMS"  you essentially lop off
     any inconvenient edges "WE" may have. That allows you to define
     your prey (us po' foks) to fit conveniently into your contriv-en-ish
     logic. That Frank and I won't let you get away with it, seems ever
     a mystery to you. My "pointing out your (and some others) "rounding
     off" was just a bit of counter contrivancy.
 
 DM>> But do pour out your heart of reasoning as I _MAY_  be wrong 
 DM>> and John might just be on the verge of admitting that pure logic
 DM>> is not the virgin he thinks it is!
 
 JB> I introduced the topic of "Fuzzy Logic", grays, earlier about a
 JB> year or perhaps longer ago to indicate pure binary logic leaves
 JB> a lot to be desired particularly in our existence, however, even
 JB> "Fuzzy Logic", grays, has -some- form or rules to follow. To use
 JB> "logic" even "fuzzy logic" without rules or form misses the -need-
 JB> for form or structure.
 
     Yes I remember your introducing "fuzzy logic" grays. My general
     dispute with you is that you MOST always project North of the
     "grays" you claim to know and love .....with more emphasis on
     rigidity of form than insight into substance. YES!  You know
     there are grays but you treat the
 
              "reality-of-truth-to-be-mired-in-grays"
 
     as an orphan to be only occasionally and reluctantly
     acknowledged                    .......Goodness!!!!
 
  GREAT GREAT china LOGIC- yes! yes! chop! chop!
  Good and evil be just two      _^    ^^    ^_  Take care,
  ends of same elephant-       /~ee\  /ee\  /ee~\ ... Dave
  ...with big "GRAY" middle !   //     ||     \\
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--- Maximus/2 3.01
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* Origin: America's favorite whine - it's your fault! (1:261/1000)

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