-=> Wayne Chirnside said to Dennis Collins
 -=> about "STILL AROUND" on 10-24-04  12:44.....

 DC> ok think of them as a 14 pin ttl dip ic, pin 1 is marked, then
 DC> pin 14 is +5 and pin 7 is Gnd, the output is pin 8 from memory
 DC> and the output is 5v ttl levels.

 WC> Nit picking.
 WC> Minus transistor junction drop ;-)

Nit pickin' here too:

Some bipolar circuits use complimentary saturated common-emitter
stages that can pull the output to within a few millivolts of the
rail voltage.

And most FET output stages can pull the level close to the rail
voltage, depending on the loading.

But these chips probably have TTL outputs or similar.

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