Hi Jan,
Saturday June 29 1996 00:24, Jan Trogensson wrote to Pat Winstanley:
 PW>> I don't take part in AA
 JT>      Itīs the same for me, i think itīs beacuse iīm afraid
 JT> for my own
 JT>      proudness.
Same here, I think. My pride gets in the way of a lot of things I would 
really like to do. I say I can't get to meetings, but the truth really is 
that I don't like what I see there, and I'm afraid.
 PW>> but get a lot of help and support from the *A people in
 PW>> here.
 JT>      That is my hope to cause i think that this is realy
 JT> anonymous.
They are very helpful here. If you have a question or a worry, just say it 
and someone will write back and help you. Usually people say what happened to 
them in similar circumstances (position/state/mindset). But they don't very 
often tell you what to do... just what they did.
 PW>> In England  AA is
 PW>> a bit sparse and extremely insular
 JT>      ?????????????????????????????????? Please help me here!
There are not a lot of AA meetings here (sparse means not many, or few, or 
scattered). The meetings that do exist are like closed clubs... the English 
word (if you can look it up in a Swedish/English dictionary or phrase book) 
is 'clique' (insular means closed up, or outsiders not accepted, or a set way 
of doing things).
Hope that is a bit clearer???
 PW>> Mum: "Why did you hit him?"
 PW>> Son: "He looked at me!"
 PW>> Mum: "Aaaaaaaaargh!"
 JT>      Janne:" yeah !!!!!!! iīm not allone"
:-)) Is Janne you, or your wife?
 PW>> How old are your kids? Boys or girls?
 JT>      I got three girls; Sara 13 yearīs old - Sofie 9 yearīs
 JT> - Jannika 5 years.
 JT>      I got one boy Niklas who is 7 years old.
 JT>      Mix them together and you got your self a tornado.
Two boys here. Philip is 13 and Jamie is just 12. They are a year apart in 
(the same) high school and great rivals. Hurricane here, rather than tornado. 
It's hard to keep calm and serene while all hell breaks loose all around. 
Philip has become sullen recently (sulky/grunting/disobedient). Is Sara the 
same?
 PW>> I don't know how good your English is, and my Swedish
 PW>> simply doesn't exist, so please ask if I say something
 PW>> you don't understand or can't translate.
 JT>      I hope you got a hang on my english level now :-))), i
 JT> think itīs low.
It's not too bad at all! I wish I could speak another language as well as you 
do.
 PW>> What sort of work do you normally do?
 JT>      This is my life, i mean the work thing. I have had at
 JT> least 30 different
 JT>      jobbs before i came in to this program.
 JT>      Mostly i have worked with my body, you know hard work.
Labouring? Like digging, building, gradening etc?
 JT>      The last 4 years i have beeing in school, a sort off
 JT> high school for
 JT>      grown up people.
What have you been studying/learning?
I have just done two years at college (high school +) as a mature student 
(grown up person) learning about computers and different programming 
languages. My classmates were about 18 or 19 years old. I'm old enough to be 
their mother! ;-)
 PW> Me? I'm a freelance
 PW>> writer/journalist/programmer.
 JT>     I like that thing about programing, in witch laungwich??
Which language? Well lots of different ones. Pascal, Visual Basic, C, SQL 
which were fun... and COBOL which is a PAIN!
 PW>> And very boringly an ex-accountant! ;-)
 JT>      ??????????????????????????????????! eeeeh what is
 JT> that?.
Making up the books and ledgers to show the financial (money) state of a 
business. Profit & Loss and Balance Sheets. Believe me, it is very, very 
boring. I used to work all day, then study at night with several cans of beer 
to relax me to allow me to sleep.
Please talk again. We can use netmail or e-mail if you prefer?
I hope my English is more simple for you now, and that you can understand me 
better. If not, please say so! :-)
Pat
peewee@cix.compulink.co.uk
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