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to: LYLE KNOX
from: RD THOMPSON
date: 1996-07-11 18:34:00
subject: Re: Kicked Out Of Denny`

Using an ancient Captain Midnight secret decoder ring at Warp speed,
Lyle Knox, sent the following message to Rd Thompson:
LK>  RT> It is the second paragraph on the back of your CCW license.
LK>  RT>  The one that states:
LK> 
LK>  RT> "This permit DOES NOT authorize you to carry a prohibited
LK>  RT> weapon as defined by law.  This permit DOES NOT authorize
LK>  RT> you to carry a weapon into an establishment prohibiting
LK>  RT> weapons."
LK> 
LK> Right, but there's no =statute= on the books stating that to do so is in 
and
LK> of itself a prosecutable offense.  Trespass and DOC are about the only 
things
LK> that they can nail you on.
That is why when you just smile, say "Oooooops" and leave that there
is not much they can do about it.  :^)
LK>  RT> BTW, most malls or stores do have door that is not posted.
LK>  RT> One can always enter that way, plead ignorance when (and
LK>  RT> if) informed by store management, and then leave the store.
LK>  RT>  :^)
LK> 
LK> LK>> FWIW, I was in Fiesta Mall a couple weeks back when I saw a large 
an
LK> LK>> with
LK> LK>> his wife and 2.3 kids strolling into Sears from the mall entrance
LK> LK>> sporting
LK>  RT> a
LK> LK>> full-sized Glock carried openly.  As he was heading into Sears 
(which,
LK> LK>> like
LK> LK>> all the anchors with external doors, is unposted)
LK> 
LK>  RT> Ahhh, I see you already know that.  :^)
LK> 
LK> But I'd never admit to it.  };-)
   :^)
LK> LK>> the security guys simply
LK> LK>> informed him that there were no weapons allowed in the mall.  All 
this
LK> LK>> as I
LK> LK>> was sitting not 20 feet away with my Sig in my Galco fanny pack...  
:-)
LK> 
LK>  RT> I tend to use fanny packs from other than gun companies.
LK>  RT> The last thing that I need is a *NEON* advertizing sign on
LK>  RT> it from one of the gun companies.  I keep my Glock 27 in a
LK>  RT> small leather holster (that covers the trigger) inside my
LK>  RT> pack.
LK> 
LK> I keep wondering what's going to happen when the mall guards toss the 
wrong
LK> guy who then takes the mall to court for not allowing him access to the
LK> stores =inside= the mall when the anchors don't seem to mind whether 
people
LK> carry or not.  IMHO, the mall owners need to either take down the signs 
(the
LK> preferred solution) or make the anchors put =up= signs.
You and I are both waiting for the same thing.
LK> Another thing I keep wondering about is all these supposedly well-trained
LK> "guards" and cops who can't recognize my Galco fanny pack for what it is. 
 I
LK> compare them to perfect strangers who come up to me and ask me how I like 
my
LK> fanny pack holster and whether they should get one for themselves.  :-)  
The
LK> only time I've had a cop who didn't know me ask about my pack was at 
ally
LK> World when I stopped in at about 6:30 AM on my way to work for some 
allergy
LK> drugs.  Was an off-duty female deputy, who simply asked me if I was 
wearing a
LK> "fanny pack".  Well, I was, duh!, but knew damn well what she was talking
LK> about so whipped out my permit and flashed it at her.  She gave me a sort 
of
LK> dirty look when I did, though; must've been hoping for some "action" to 
break
LK> up the boredom.  This particular Wal-Mart, though can't seem to make up 
its
LK> mind about whether to post or not to post as the signs go up then come 
down,
LK> go up then come down again.  Right now, it's posted...on one door, which 

LK> never seem to use.  };-)
Wonder why.  :^)
Sleep well tonight, Lyle....
RD
sandman@azstarnet.com
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