Using an ancient Captain Midnight secret decoder ring at Warp speed,
Lyle Knox, sent the following message to Rd Thompson:
LK> RT> It is the second paragraph on the back of your CCW license.
LK> RT> The one that states:
LK>
LK> RT> "This permit DOES NOT authorize you to carry a prohibited
LK> RT> weapon as defined by law. This permit DOES NOT authorize
LK> RT> you to carry a weapon into an establishment prohibiting
LK> RT> weapons."
LK>
LK> Right, but there's no =statute= on the books stating that to do so is in
and
LK> of itself a prosecutable offense. Trespass and DOC are about the only
things
LK> that they can nail you on.
That is why when you just smile, say "Oooooops" and leave that there
is not much they can do about it. :^)
LK> RT> BTW, most malls or stores do have door that is not posted.
LK> RT> One can always enter that way, plead ignorance when (and
LK> RT> if) informed by store management, and then leave the store.
LK> RT> :^)
LK>
LK> LK>> FWIW, I was in Fiesta Mall a couple weeks back when I saw a large
an
LK> LK>> with
LK> LK>> his wife and 2.3 kids strolling into Sears from the mall entrance
LK> LK>> sporting
LK> RT> a
LK> LK>> full-sized Glock carried openly. As he was heading into Sears
(which,
LK> LK>> like
LK> LK>> all the anchors with external doors, is unposted)
LK>
LK> RT> Ahhh, I see you already know that. :^)
LK>
LK> But I'd never admit to it. };-)
:^)
LK> LK>> the security guys simply
LK> LK>> informed him that there were no weapons allowed in the mall. All
this
LK> LK>> as I
LK> LK>> was sitting not 20 feet away with my Sig in my Galco fanny pack...
:-)
LK>
LK> RT> I tend to use fanny packs from other than gun companies.
LK> RT> The last thing that I need is a *NEON* advertizing sign on
LK> RT> it from one of the gun companies. I keep my Glock 27 in a
LK> RT> small leather holster (that covers the trigger) inside my
LK> RT> pack.
LK>
LK> I keep wondering what's going to happen when the mall guards toss the
wrong
LK> guy who then takes the mall to court for not allowing him access to the
LK> stores =inside= the mall when the anchors don't seem to mind whether
people
LK> carry or not. IMHO, the mall owners need to either take down the signs
(the
LK> preferred solution) or make the anchors put =up= signs.
You and I are both waiting for the same thing.
LK> Another thing I keep wondering about is all these supposedly well-trained
LK> "guards" and cops who can't recognize my Galco fanny pack for what it is.
I
LK> compare them to perfect strangers who come up to me and ask me how I like
my
LK> fanny pack holster and whether they should get one for themselves. :-)
The
LK> only time I've had a cop who didn't know me ask about my pack was at
ally
LK> World when I stopped in at about 6:30 AM on my way to work for some
allergy
LK> drugs. Was an off-duty female deputy, who simply asked me if I was
wearing a
LK> "fanny pack". Well, I was, duh!, but knew damn well what she was talking
LK> about so whipped out my permit and flashed it at her. She gave me a sort
of
LK> dirty look when I did, though; must've been hoping for some "action" to
break
LK> up the boredom. This particular Wal-Mart, though can't seem to make up
its
LK> mind about whether to post or not to post as the signs go up then come
down,
LK> go up then come down again. Right now, it's posted...on one door, which
LK> never seem to use. };-)
Wonder why. :^)
Sleep well tonight, Lyle....
RD
sandman@azstarnet.com
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